Did Trump engage in a 'Conspiracy to defraud the United States'?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    THe quote comes from an email by Gilliar, who testified that he has not witnessed Joe Biden
    recieve any money.
    Thats' your misunderstanding, what Joe is saying he doesn't know the intracacies of his son's business, nor is he recieving
    any funds from his son, nor is he in partnership with this son.
    Shell companies are legal entities which are not prima facie evidence of crime.
    There are many legitimate reasons for having a shell company.
    Just because you don't know the nature of Hunter Biden's business, overseas, doesn't mean there aren't services render.
    You simple don't know.

    Was Hunter Biden subpoaned? No.
    Trump associated with Epstein, doesn't prove he bedded teenage girls.

    Therefore.......
    You have failed to provide any hard evidence, so far.
    You are blind. Hell, that phone call to Raffensperger is a smoking gun, and you can't smell it?

    Ty Cobb today said that Trump will be jailed, soon.

    Ty Cobb was a former Trump lawyer.

    Now, repeat after me:

    Trump is a sex abuser, conman, fraudster, criminal
    who loves Putin, the 'poorly educated', not to mention
    that he despises democracy and has betrayed America

    Trump org, indicted
    Trump CFO, in prison
    Trump campaign mgr., convicted.
    Trump, 34 felony counts in NYC
    Trump, sued for $250 million in NY.
    Trump, found liable for sex abuse and defamation, must pay $5 million
    Trump, being investigated for obstruction relating to the theft of national defense information documents
    Trump, being investigated for election fraud in GA
    Trump, being investigation for crimes related to Jan 6 attack, Jan 6 attempt to overturn the election by delaying the joint session fo congress.
    Trump, settled for $25 million having scammed thousands out of millions in a fake university scam
    Trump, fornicated with a porn star just after his newly wed wife gave birth and threw his long time dedicated lawyer under the bus.
    Trump charity, shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump fined $2 million.

    Got it?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    What did Joe Biden know and when did he know it..
    Why no indictments Patricio Da Silva? Do you really have an answer?
     
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    Trump committed election crimes by soliciting campaign aid from Russian agents. They offered dirt on Hillary in exchange for a promise of reduction of sanctions against Russia. That is clearly a crime and Trump should have been charged. Or at least the other people involved in the meeting should have been charged. DoJ screwed up.
     
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    The lawyer was a Hillary plant… the DOJ won’t want to uncover that.
     
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    Ironic to see a post beginning with a sweeping generalization fallacy, followed by an attempt to insult the intelligence of others.
     
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    'If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bs….
     
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    You missed the point completely, but that is what Republicans do when it comes to their party or their party's leader.
     
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    Intelligence?

    As an example, you didn't say a thing about the issues contained in the report you responded to.

    Typically for a Republican, all you could muster was a personal attack on the author of those issues.

    You are proving my point.
     
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    After we saw what happened to the"free Speech" Jan 6th, I think we were rather wise to keep quiet.. we all know what happened and who instigated that bit of false flag theatre.. but do not care to be picked off one by one by Fed swat teams kicking in the door in the wee hours of the morning
     
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    I replied to your false statement. I am not a republican and I addressed what you posted, not you personally. That is not a personal attack. I am sure the total sum of your character is not represented by a single post.

    Getting back to these people you appear to look down on because you assume they did not consume the same data you consider "education", do you think those growing your food don't understand what they are voting for?
     
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    You have no evidence for your silly accusation.
     
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    ""The lawyer was a Hillary plant… the DOJ won’t want to uncover that.""

    All documented.... prove me wrong..

    Yes.... Veselnitskaya was a Hillary "plant"...
    Transcripts released Wednesday by the Senate Judiciary Committee say that Glenn Simpson, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, had dinner with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya both the day before and the day after she met with Donald Trump, Jr. at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016.


    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pr...circumstances-surrounding-trump-tower-meeting
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/simpson-transcript-redacted
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/veselnitskaya-responses
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ticipants-met-clinton-associate-ed-lieberman/

    Who was Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.....
    Glenn Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and co-founder of Fusion GPS, was with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at a Manhattan federal courtroom just hours before the Trump Tower meeting...
    Veselnitskaya has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in the meeting.
    Veselnitskaya hired Simpson in spring 2014 for work that lasted, according to Simpson’s Senate testimony, until “mid to late 2016.”
    Simpson also testified that he had dinner with Veselnitskaya the night before the meeting and the night after. In two different cities... What are the odds of that?

    In 2007, Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby co-wrote a compelling spy-novel-like article titled How Lobbyists Help Ex-Soviets Woo Washington, which contains many of the same names and familiar themes that have been used throughout the entire 2+ year situation

    ""Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with Fusion GPS both before and after she travelled to Trump Tower to meet with Don Jr"".... Also note Glenn Simpson and her met in two different cities in those before and after meetings , actually dinners, what is the likely hood of that happening coincidentally?

    page 117 Simpson transcript
    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Simpson Transcript_redacted.pdf
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    Got proof for these allegations?
     
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    ""Veselnitskaya has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in the meeting."

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    That's a lot of very unconnected dots to try to connect.

    You're the only person Ive ever heard call the Trump Tower meeting a "setup".
     
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    I don't have to connect dots... if you want more that is up to the DOJ investigations, which ain't gonna happen because it will uncover more dirty tricks by Hillary.. plus Obama. Biden and the DOJ were in on the "hillary plan"

    There seemed to be an issue with Veselnitskaya getting a visa into the country and somehow that mysteriously happened.
    The lawyer and Simpson met for dinner the day before and the day after... in two different American cities... think about it... what are the odds of that happening..

    In 2007, Glenn Simpson and his wife Mary Jacoby co-wrote a compelling spy-novel-like article titled How Lobbyists Help Ex-Soviets Woo Washington, which contains many of the same names and familiar themes that have been used throughout the entire 2+ year situation of Russiagate
    https://tinyurl.com/sptmy2wh
     
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