Do Americans really want a king Trump?

The emperor with no clothes

 

Let's suppose he actually tried to order US businesses out of China. Do you think Mitch McConnell would try to stop him? Would the supreme court?

 

Good one.

 

Yes, whoever initiates the act of war.

Trump is an idiot, but Xi is a snake.

 

I would dare say most all our govt does should e for the economic benefits of Americans. I do not believe we’ve had a president take on the Chinese unfair practices...I do agree with that

 

Lol...Well, you definitely are.
You don’t need permission in a free society to set up your business where you want, so congress didn’t have to “permit” anything.
Blame consumers who would rather throw their own country under the bus than pay more for their stuff.
Blame those splendid “job creators” like trump for using foreign sweatshops rather than manufacturing their stuff domestically.

 

Because Obama never even jokingly mentioned staying on after his second term? Because Obama only resorted to EOs when the GOP-led congress would sit on their hands over legislation most of the people wanted? Or maybe because unlike Trump, his EOs were not direct retaliation against his predecessor?

How about all of the above, plus the big difference between Obama being a grown man and Trump with the emotional maturity of a three year old?



Yeah, that.

 

Deflection. There are loonies in congress, but none with the power to do the vast amount of damage that Trump is doing.

Whataboutisms -- the natural response of the right when they refuse to face facts.

 

Did your google not find any of these?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...-loves-to-say-he-may-not-leave-office-848799/

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/tru...r-five-terms-we-ll-drive-them-crazy-1.7270441

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mand-he-not-leave-after-two-terms/1471915001/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...nstitution-and-stay-in-white-house-beyond-his

https://washingtonmonthly.com/magaz...could-lose-the-election-and-remain-president/

Before you lash out again, no, I don't take it seriously. But he has said these things, and many Americans find that alarming, which is what we're discussing on this thread.

 

I don't see how McConnell can be prescient in knowing that there will be a vacancy. RBG appears to have come through therapy doing very well and appears to be strong and resilient.

She's a tough old bird.

Maybe someone else plans to retire? idk

 

He's charging tariffs and making trade deals with no input from congress. Trade deals are the job of congress, according to the constitution Trump violates daily.

He's insisting that we the people pay for Pence and his sizeable entourage to stay at his golf resort in Ireland, even though Pence's official visit and all associated meetings and events take place in Dublin, more than three hours away from the resort, which means we're also paying for him to fly back and forth every day. That's Trump taking our taxpayer dollars and outting them directly into his own pocket, also a violation of the constitution.

He "hereby order[ed]" American businesses to get out of China.

His violations of the constitutions emoluments clase is a daily occurrence. He never even attempted to divest himself of business holdings in accordance with that clause, and continues to benefit personally and financially from his position as president.

There's more, but why bother? Those who support him won't be swayed by facts. He was right when he claimed that he could go out on 5th Avenue and shoot someone, and his base would be fine with that.

 

Trumps proposed executive order would arguably be within the confines of existing law. Obama's executive order not to enforce existing law was the definition of acting like a king.

 

Are you serious? Did you not claim that the Obama administration had a hit list of American citizens? And when asked for proof, you trot out this bit about a collateral death from a drone strike on a known terrorist enclave?

Epic fail.

 

McConnel isn't prescient, he's malevolent. Let's hope RBG outlives him.

 

I'm not lashing, i'm laughing.

This is just an example of more blind hate, which is typical around here, nothing more than standard leftist overreaction to every single word the man says. But feel free to discuss this until your fingers hurt, I will continue to find it comical and call out the ridiculousness whenever I see it, such as now. Sorry you wasted time searching for more evidence of TDS but I was fully aware that it existed.

I didn't vote for the man in 16 but i'm much more likely to do so in 2020 and much of the reason is the left's crazy responses to everything out there related to trump and the syrup on the sundae is gun grabbing, ignoring if not promoting illegal immigration, the GND, massive loan forgiveness proposals, and higher taxation. I'm sure I left something out but that's good enough.

 

No president has the power to order private companies as to where they can or cannot do business.

The notion that a president has their pen and their phone and can do anything they want, should have died in January 2017.

 

If Trump is reelected, I doubt she will live past his term in office. If any justice is too ill to perform their duties, they have a duty to retire. But I'm guessing RBG would refuse, and lay in her death bed on life support until she drew her last breath.

 

Speculation I saw was Thomas.

 

He can make it nearly impossible for them to continue to operate there, which he has not done.

 

IMHO, Congress does not have the power to stop US corporations from setting up business in China. Nothing in the Constitution allows that power.

 

Mama don't allow no Chinopoly playin' around here.

I don't see anything in the Constitution that allows incorporation of companies in the US.

 

Actually he does as Congress gave that power to the President.

 

Can't say I have studied it in depth, but I would speculate that it would be hard to get to Xi's level without being somewhat of a snake. That said, if Xi is a snake, Trump is a 'less refined' snake, to be generous.

 

To my knowledge the president has never ordered US businesses to leave a country for the sake of a trade war. And that is what is worrying, IMO, in this instance. I think a credible case could be made if somehow American lives were directly at risk or, in the case of some direct military conflict, somehow the national security of the US was being compromised in a direct and significant way. However, this trade war stuff, is really a matter of seeking to increase US control and influence in China. As such, this is more of a pissing contest between the elite classes of the two countries for control in China, than it is about benefitting the American people in general. Therefore placing restrictions on Americans on who they can do business with for that sake starts to sound more like what you would get with a monarch and his lackeys, than what would be the result of careful, somewhat democratic deliberation.

 

First of all you need to wake up from your 'monster' sleep and read carefully what I said. Second of all, somebody has to put the partisan BS aside, count the cards, and alert people when worrying trends start to develop. Otherwise, you can end up in a place that is rather different from where you expected to be going. We have been giving the president quite a bit of power lately, especially since 911. That is troubling no matter who is in office. It is especially troubling when you have a person who has a tendency to behave in an impulsive way in office like Trump.