Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

If a homosexual turns to Christ and is born-again, he is no longer a homosexual.

Quantrill

 

Why can't a christian be engaged in homosexual activity?

Are you saying christians don't commit sins or they just don't commit this one sin?

Why is this sin more important than others? Jesus never condemned the homosexuals. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, yet many people consider it one of the most vile things happening today, even beyond genocide. I thought the bible said that all sin was the same...

Do you think Jesus would not forgive the sin of homosexuality? Why or why not?

 

Because homosexuality has its roots in unbelief. Rom.1:18-27 For one to become a Christian, he then has a new nature born-again from God.

All sin is sin. It is not all the same.

Quantrill

 

You actually read this and think it says people can not stop believing?

 

I read it and believe it means exactly what it says. They went out from us because they were not of us. We, on the other hand have an unction from the Holy One. It doesn't say you didn't stop believing. It says you never were a believer.

Quantrill

 

No it doesn't. It says either THEY were not believers, or THEY had lost that unction.
It says nothing universal about the impossibility of the loss of faith.
Nothing.

 

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

1John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us;...they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

The reason they left is because they were not of us, who have the Spirit of God.

Quantrill

 

All it says is they no longer have that spirit within them. The rest is what you are putting on it. In fact, it says when one has rejected that spirit, then God rejects them right back.

 

Sorry. It says they went out from us because they were not of us. Its nothing about rejecting. Its never being of us.

Quantrill

 

In basic secular terms: Once you have learned how to count and do addition and subtraction – it is for life. It is like learning how to drive a bike. It is for life. Once you get the Holy Spirit you cannot destroy it in yourself. You can do bad things and sin but you have the knowledge of what is bad and what is sin. It is no choice of yours to exterminate the knowledge. Once you get it you also understand that it was no choice of yours to get it. It took years to me to go from questioning my atheism to getting the point of Xnty. It was my choice of getting on the road. But when I got to the point of Xty I have received what I did not wish for, I did not choose, I did not think of. All my previous knowledge and science and books I had read do not matter anymore. I was born (again). Once you are born you cannot undo and turn back to non-existence. It is not a choice to be born and go back and fourth. Once the shores of blindness fall off your eyes and you see light and things around you - that's it -you have seen them, you can pokes your own eyes but you cannot exterminate the awareness of the light and things around you. 93.252 % of times Quantrill states very basic things of the Xn faith, there are no interpretations he makes, just explanation and patient repetition, because as a rule you guys just do not listen, do not listen, do not listen, do not listen, do not listen…. but just talk to yourself… do not even want to listen, but to over talk, you are not interested in any truth, because the truth and realities scare you and you hate them with all your heart.

 

That's an assertion that we can make for ourselves but not for others. The Parable of the Sower is telling because as the gospel is preached, some receive it with joy, but lack the roots to sustain it and so they quickly fell away.

It's all about the roots.

Over a lifetime of walking with the Lord, I can say that my roots have tapped deep into the love of God. I will not perish during droughts, I will not be blown away when the storms come. I am anchored deep and solid and I will not be moved. I feel like you can say the same thing.

But it's not that way with others who, like us, have had a genuine conversion, but then lost their way, or got caught up in the cares of this world. They weren't like many new converts who dug deeply into the Bible, explored and fortified their relationship to the Lord, and through trial and perseverence became solidly rooted in Christ. The book of Hebrews was written to an audience that was falling away, returning to the law as their source of justification instead of grace. They were warned to remain steadfast to the end. They were warned that a sacrifice no longer remained if they fell away because Christ cannot be crucified anew. These were real warnings based on real dangers of Christians forsaking salvation.

Nobody is "locked in" to salvation. Free will remains unviolated even among Christians. Salvation is a journey that begins at our conversion but doesn't end until we're home. Revelation tells its audience to "endure to the end" that they might receive "a crown of life". This brings me full circle back to my first statement. I know that I will love the Lord for every day he sees fit to give me and that one day I'll stand before him, unsullied because of the precious blood of Christ, and ready to enter glory. Nothing in this life will separate me from the love of God in the meantime. I feel strongly like you can say the same based on your posts. But we can't say that for others.

 

Yea...

I didn't think I was going to get a response... If you are going to be Christian, believe in Christ's word and know it!!! Don't be a follower of somebody "preaching" His word! Thus, I will conclude that you all know that there will be homosexuals in Heaven and yes, because of Jesus, they get a free pass just like every sinner on the planet!

If your Jewish or Muslim? Well, that is a different story now isn't it...

 

Quantrill quoted scriptures. He did not claim "locked in" to salvation. He did not claim it is not a journey. he did not claim there are not those who are got caught up in the cares of this world. Xns including you get caught up too. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, - we still have to ask because we are not “locked in” He claimed that they are Xns. Or more exactly there is no such thing as a former Xns. Xns get caught up in the cares of this world, can still hear and understand, for there is no man on the earth who walks upright, unless you claim to be the one. Quantrill has been humble so far for his does not have to brag about his relations and personal feelings. As the matter of the fact I am on your ignore list, when nobody is on Quantrill's. How is about learning about "humble"?
God bless you, brother.

 

You do not listen, you do not hear...

Listen, JC did not come to break the law. Understand? Yes? No?
In the law sodomites and adulterers and etc were stoned. Understand Yes? No?
When JC saw people who were going to stone the woman he did not teach that they shouldn’t stone. Understand? Yes? No?

He encouraged them to stone. Understand? Yes? No?
He said, - go ahead, - Cast your stone. Understand? Yes? No?

He did not say that it was OK for the woman to break the law. He explicitly said – you cannot do that. JC is extremely intolerant to sins. He is the most intolerant out of everything. There is no excuse one can make with him.

 

This is a perfectly natural question for anyone who sees no qualitative difference between nominal Christians who follow Christ and nominal Christians who do not. Of course those who fail to recognize that difference are either lamentably ignorant about Christianity or contemptuous of it.

 

If I cannot make that assertion, 'that there are no former Christians', about all, then I can not make it at all.

In the parable of the Sower, the ground is the key. The 'good' ground is the one which produced the fruit. The others were not good ground.

I do disagree with you, that those who have believed on Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour can lose their salvation. I do not see any Scripture to indicate it. I know there are verses which appear to say that. But I have found that they do not.

So, without going further into the different passages you allude to, I would say another thread would be good on this subject. And I will start one.

Quantrill