Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

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  1. Josh77

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    If the Palestinians are driven from Gaza, and Israel builds settlements there, that is ethnic cleansing.

    The Nakba was also ethnic cleansing. The same strategy is being used here. Use a war to move the civilians, then refuse to let them back to their homes as Israeli settlers build there. That is what ethnic cleansing is.
     
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    The reality on the ground in Gaza.
     
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    That is not the “Last Days of Hamas” plan.
     
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    Your vagueness tells me you have nothing.
     
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    Was America and it's allies during WW2 wrong for causing so much death and destruction in Germany to ensure all the Nazi's were killed or captured? Why should Israel stop before all of Hamas is destroyed?
     
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    Israel forced over 40,000 Israelis from Gaza back in 2006 when Hamas came into power. No Israelis were left. That is what Hamas wanted. What part of that was not genocide by Hamas?
     
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    Yes, I'm serious. Even the UN can't ignore stuff like this:

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    Oct 26 Hamas reported 7,028 fatalities vs 6,547 prior day or +481. Remarkably women & children killed jump by +626 that same day! (See my math in blue below). No men died that day apparently. Again, no hint of shame or skepticism by UN to publish these Hamas numbers. 6/

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    Because innocent civilians are dying at an unacceptable rate. How is killing so many civilians going to stop Hamas? It is making it stronger, not weaker. The more civilians are killed, the more extremists are created.
     
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    I guess your history of WW2 and the bombing of Germany's civilians is a bit rusty?
     
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    If...

    Oh yes, the Nakba was definitely ethnic cleansing. All Jews were ethnically cleansed from all territories captured by Jordan and Egypt. Around 800,000 Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries.
     
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    In light of the FACTS - YOUR silly charge of ridiculous seems absolutely Ludicrous :)
    ... For the FACTs ARE -- As to what happened after Israel left the Gaza Strip ?

    1. Hamas immediately took over Gaza. - June 15 - 2007
    .... The question is - was Israel so cravenly STUPID not to realize that this
    ..... would happen, or was it their clear & Evil intention ? .... Well it seems

    ... clear to every one but the Zionist Propaganda Mills that try and SPIN IT
    ....
    .otherwise. They would rather inadvertently admit to a craven STUPIDITY.
    ................. than to the more obvious and incriminating - overt Evil intention


    2. Then Gaza was immediately put under Israel's thumb as a harsh blockade
    .................................................. was imposed that has lasted for the past 16 yrs.

    Now unless YOU are cravenly STUPID, ... What should you EXPECT from a people
    so treated for over 16 yrs, with no hope of relief ? - Why there will be an inevitable
    ........................................................................................... Violent Rebellion won't there ?

    So was it all craven STUPIDITY or a was it rather of a coldly calculated and
    .................................................................................................. patently EVIL intent ?




    Israel adopted the policies that sponsored the creation of an extremist Hamas
    as a "Divide et Impera" strategy. ... Because the PLO was diplomatically
    working the Two State Solution that both the Hamas and Israel categorically
    .......................................................................................................................... REJECT

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    (And now with these Unethical Immoral policies -- the chickens have eventually come home to roost )
    From : The Times Of Israel -
    For Years, Netanyahu Propped Up Hamas.
    Now It’s Blown Up In Our Faces

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
    From The Article:
    The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas
    and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from



    From : The Washington Post ,
    How Israel Helped Create Hamas
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
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    Now both Hamas & Israel have clearly stated THEIR EVIL intent - That being Genocide !
    ...... But it is ONLY Israel that is in a position too implement GENOCIDE and is in FACT
    ....................................................... presently in the midst of committing this unspeakable ACT

    A
    s the EVIL intent has been made clear by the unambiguous words of Netanyahu
    as he appeals to the Biblical solution to the Amalekite Problem, that being GENOCIDE



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    Do you have a link to the original data? That looks seriously doctored to me.
     
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    I think you are seriously confused about what the Nakba is.
     
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    Your version of history is seriously doctored.
     
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    I suppose you think that bombing civilian homes is what ended the war. No. Bombing industrial sites did that. What industry is being bombed in Gaza? No ball bearing factories there I am afraid...
    Bombing civilians is probably what made Germany fight so damn hard, and likely cost more allied lives than what would have otherwise been lost.

    I suppose you think bombing Dresden was necessary. It wasn't.
     
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    Yeah well, the UN, the intelligence agencies of the USA, and most of the world are in agreement with my version. You have Bibi and friends on your side. Hmmmmm, I wonder why they would want to hide the number of actual dead civilians???
     
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    There is no industry in Gaza. Only underground tunnels and shelters. Israel is using 2000 lb smart bombs to seal off the entrances and exits.
     
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    Exactly my point.
     
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    So why did so much of Germany get destroyed if only military and industrial sites were targeted according to you? Did Hiroshima and Nagasaki have critical military bases and industry?
     
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    There are no sides here. There is the factual record of history which you ignore. And there is the factual reality that Gazan civilians will be much better off with Hamas gone and Israel again providing security in the Gaza Strip.
     
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    There was a functioning economy before Israel left the Gaza Strip in 2005. After Hamas no economy.
     
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    6 years of war will do that when there are millions of soldiers involved in the fighting. It was a world war. The targeting methods were extremely more primitive than what is available today. Even with dumb bombs today, CCIP/CCRP methods of delivery are still far more accurate than what a B-17 employed.
    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not at all necessary in my opinion, and was more about demonstrating our new capability to Russia than defeating Japan, who would have surrendered eventually or at least be made impotent through naval blockades. No, invading mainland Japan was never necessary.

    I'm sure you'll go off on a tangent and try to derail the thread now...
     
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    There is a factual side of history, and you are not on it. You are running on pure propaganda, my friend.
     
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    There certainly isn't one now, seeing as how most of the buildings are now rubble and the population is starving to death.
     
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    Says the guy who believes that Israel left Gaza to gain control of Gaza. Too funny.
     

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