Do You Prefer Capitalism or Socialism?

Here's Trump ANNUAL to ANNUAL Growth rate, from January 1st, 2017 to March 31st, 2020



Here's Trump's Quarter to Quarter annualized rate, from Jan 1st, 2017 to March 31st, 2020

 

ONCE AGAIN, here's a DISHONEST Graph



What's dishonest about said graph;

Simply put, said graph EXCLUDES Trump's 2020 Annual REAL GDP Growth Rate, thus, it EXCLUDES Trump's Recession/Negative annual GDP Growth Rates, HOWEVER, and it INCLUDES all previous President's Recessions, and their Negative annual GDP Growth Rates.

AND only Republicans would endorse such hypocrisy.

Thus, a fair comparison would be to ADD Trump's negative annual GDP Growth Rates, or to EXCLUDE both Trump and past President's Recessions/Negative annual GDP Growth Rates.

IN ADDITION, if we were to exclude recessions, at what QUARTER we would start calculating Obama's Annual GDP Growth Rates considering the following GDP Formula;

For example; 2017 Annual Real GDP Growth Rate =

2017 Real GDP minus 2016 Real GDP divided by 2016 Real GDP times 100 = 2.27%. In other words, the annual rate is calculated over the last 2 years.

Thus, considering the fact Bush/Obama's recession ended in June, 2009, we would start calculating Obama's annual rates from Q3 2011.

Well, would it be much simpler to include Trump's recession?

Yep!

 

Ya lets be that Mr. Obatard was graced with 8 trillion and a economic reset, you're not suggesting King Dronanator actually CREATED millions and millions of NEW jobs are you Hell I'll give the benefit of the doubt and YOU give give us all some examples of the jobs Mr. Obatard created! While you're at it, I'm sure you can show all the data that reflects Mr. Obatards grand numbers of the historical reduction of unemployment among Black, Latino's, whites and other minorities..

I'm excited, finally someone that can produce real links and examples of Mr. Obatards fresh new world he made for all us Americans!!!!

 

And he got far more economics for the money then Mr. Obatard, or what Bush had before the subprime crash..

So you scoff at 1.2% when economist were claiming full employment before that Well hell bro, he did what economist claimed was impossible, and Mr. Obatard said was the "New Norm"

And you're flinging poo, damn you clearly can't be pleased can you? Well other then flinging poo at someone that clearly did better then your last "New norm" idiot.. Mr. Obatard was a quitter, hands down. It's a trait of the DNC when they run out of idea's, they just claim "Full employment, The new Norm and get used to it"

 

Yes you do - you were the one that asked the question as to why a someone would care about the affairs of another nations. So then - why is it that you think that Blue cares so much about Russia ..

Perhaps think in it since you seem to be having so much trouble figuring out why someone from another nation would be interested in US affairs.

 

Dude - unemployment was higher when Trump left office than what Obama left him.
You can pretend it was different - but it wasn't.
Trump's GDP average for his four years was a paltry 0.4%. That's why he was voted out of office. Not because of
Covid, but because of his haphazard and unfeeling response to Covid. He wasn't a leader. He handed it off to Pence and
the Governors and he golfed his ass off.

 

Neither! I want the European-style capitalism. And don't tell me it doesn't exist; you described it perfectly.

 

and now greedy corporatism is destroying capitalism in the USA sadly... by outsourcing all our jobs and importing all our goods

if people want less socialism, we need to address greedy corporatism

 

Trump greatest economy?
What world do you live in?
He did worse than Obama.

 

I believe Socialism has many Positive Aspects.

All People should have Rights to
-- food
-- housing
-- medical care


Why do some Republicans still support large corporations after these corporations censor them?

 

No! In Scandinavia all people have Positive Rights -- food, shelter, and healthcare.

 

I vote for Trump style America first capitalism!

 

If they're owning/working in a profit generating enterprise, it most definitely IS capitalism.

 

There is no socialism in Europe.

 

Capitalism is an ECONOMIC model, predicated on generation of profits over and above that required for basic sustenance.

It doesn't matter who owns the enterprise. It remains capitalism if it meets the above criteria.

 

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Congrats.

 

Explain your claim - anyone can say about near anything "That's apples and oranges" - do tell us what on earth you are trying to say.

 

Of course it is!

When you covet, or worse - expect - access to the fruits of someone else's labour, that's 100% greed.

 

A capitalist democracy allows labourers to sell their labour to the highest bidder, or remove themselves from that market altogether. No one is compelled to accept wages they don't like - so your argument has no legs.

Further, if you don't like holding capital (which is what you seem to be saying) then don't do it. You're free to choose - again, because you live in a capitalist democracy.

 

BS jibberish. FACT: You are obsessed with my opinion. You have left the discussion on Capitalism vs. Socialism to focus on me personally. Prove me wrong by not responding.

 

Good luck with that.

 

Well gee, the “Blues” concern about Russia was in regards to their believing another country was meddling in our election. Whereas Thing is oddly obsessed with another country not “appreciating its democracy”. See the difference? Of course not.

 

Show me how you understand your business by answering these simple questions:
If you could make more money by LEGALLY firing your American employees and sending your business overseas, what would be your decision?
If you could make more money by LEGALLY firing your American employees and hiring foreign workers with h1b, h2b or other visa, what would be your decision?

 

So you slide right back to averaging in pandemic So obvious you leftist are!

 

And you pretend 2020 never happened. So obvious you are.
Do I get to pretend the Great Recession never happened so that Obama can have better numbers? Hell, no I can't.
Part of the President's job is how he RESPONDS to crisis.