Do you regret voting for Biden?

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Do I regret voting for Biden

  1. 5 - A stern yes

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  2. 4 - Yes

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  3. 3 - Part Yes and Part no

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  4. 2 - No

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  5. 1 - A stern no

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am unaware of the proof of your claim that Trump called opponents vermin. I am not a fan of Trump. I hope he isn't the nominee but he was a better president than Brain Dead Joe has been
     
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...remark-draws-comparisons-dictators-criticism/

    As has his press secretary.

    You still didn’t answer the question.

    trump was in no way shape or form a better president than Biden, even if you omit his last two years entirely (which is pathetically shallow) — Biden blows him out of the water in spite of what he was handed. Everything trump did was for show or ego.

    If a Democratic president ever said the only good Republican is a dead one I would be calling for them to be removed from office — you people want to reflect yours. That should tell everyone everything they need to know about the two political narratives.
     
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    yes he was -he put in far better judges and justices than did Biden. Our economy was better, the world didn't have two wars going on. Biden is nothing but a puppet. He ran as a moderate and now brags about being the most leftwing president in history.
     
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    You really don't sound like you have a clue. Do you understand that our President is not a king? Biden did get infrastructure projects through Congress, which are the most extensive since Eisenhower's launching work on our interstate highway system. Ike had signed that legislation in 1956. The project went up into the early 1990s. You seem to think that Biden was promising to flip a switch, and we would suddenly all be flying around in Jetson's style, electric vehicles. These things take time; you seem to have a very short framed view of things. The real accomplishment, was getting the funding passed. The rest will follow. Projects have begun. It took a year longer than hoped for, to pass the legislation, thanks to opposition from Joe Manchin, and it got significantly reduced from the $3.5 trillion of "Build Back Better," to less than $1 trillion, for the Inflation Reduction Act. But President Biden didn't give up on it. Even if it wasn't all that he had hoped for-- that's how democracy works. There were many who'd wanted us to have no part, in any of it. Yet, even in its scaled back form, the investments in our energy future, under Biden, are the most significant addressing of Climate Change, under any President. If you compare what Trump accomplished on his wall, versus all the things that will come out of just what Biden has so far accomplished, it is no contest.

    Also, did you not notice the Biden came into a shiitestorm, that has had barely a pause, his entire term? His administration did a fabulous job, dealing with Covid (despite many Red States' actively opposing federal advice). The U.S. economy has been growing at a better pace than any of our European allies' economies; the last quarter, it was at a 4.9% rate! Unemployment is extremely low. So we pulled out of Covid, economically, in better shape than most countries. We did experience inflation, like the rest of the world, but ours is markedly lower than it has been. IOW, the Biden administration (& the Fed) is keeping things as under control as is possible-- you understand that all these market forces are not under the control of our President, right? We do seem to be proving wrong, all the critics, though, who'd assured us of a recession. Instead, we appear to be achieving the "soft landing," which-- while I've frequently heard that touted, as the goal-- I cannot recall ever being achieved, in the past.

    Meanwhile, we have had the Russian aggression against Ukraine, challenging the international order which has kept the world much more stable, and productive, since the end of the Second World War. One could not have asked for more skillful, competent leadership, of the united response, than has been provided by President Biden. And now, we have this potentially inflammable situation in the Mid East. And all the while, we've got an historic level of resistance to working with the President, because of a large, deluded part of our population, which doesn't even believe he was legitimately elected-- not to mention, an unbridled & activist Supreme Court, to contend with.

    In short, these have been extremely turbulent times, and Biden has been guiding us through them, as smoothly as could reasonably be hoped for. But yeah, we've had a bit of inflation; and Biden hasn't yet solved the immigration problems that have hung over our nation for decades. Newsflash-- Trump didn't solve them, either; nor Obama; nor Bush; nor Clinton. I mean, give the guy a little effin' time, if you expect him to fix everything that's ever been freakin' broken, and has languished, unattended.

    Biden hasn't been perfect-- but here's the thing: I realize, that nobody is; and that would be an utterly unrealistic expectation. Anyone who, overall, isn't at least satisfied, if not happy, with Biden's leadership, IMO, has a distorted image of the world. At this point, I would predict that appreciation for the steady leadership Biden has provided at this crucial juncture, will grow significantly, in the coming years. And hopefully, we will see this legacy built higher, in a second Biden term.
     
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    That is your opinion, the ABA even disagrees with you. You simply like what they are doing so you don’t care they are unqualified, extremely religious / biased or are outright extremists.

    One started with a great economy and could barely achieve marginal growth rates while having the FED push massive QE, buybacks, and manipulated the interest rates to levels we have never seen before.

    The other started on the tail end of a pandemic and tremors of a recession and the economy is rapidly growing still, leveled is leveling out.

    The statement is frankly absurd.

    He is far from left wing and progressives hate him because he isn’t.

    There are conflicts all over the planet at any time. So we still don’t have two wars going on — there are probably dozens.

    The same people saying the US should do NOTHING in Ukraine are the ones saying if we had a stronger president then this wouldn’t be happening. Thats extreme cognitive dissonance. The Israel / Gaza war is due to religious extremism.

    Blaming Biden is simply laughable

    Biden did remove our troops from the Middle East and that 2 trillion dollar war. How many wars did trump end?
     
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    the ABA is pretty much a joke to anyone who isn't a welfare socialist or worse.

    what case can you think of issued by the USSC that was based on religious extremism. BTW I have been an agnostic for over 40 years. I support legal abortion and I note ROE was an awful decision in terms of intellectual integrity or precedent
     
  7. cd8ed

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    And that is the crux of the issues. Anything you people don’t like you just ignore it as “fake news” or “socialism”.

    That you are omitting 90% of my posts without response proves what I have previously stated.
     
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    Almost everyone I've met or talked to who considers the ABA a "joke" is not a lawyer and has a poor understanding of the law.
     
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    Sure, but meanwhile all hands on deck!
     
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    You know better than that yet you’re carrying his water.
     
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    nope, I call em like I see em and the democrats are far more authoritarian than the GOP when it comes to government.
     
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    wow.
    “Prove to me the earth exists!!"
     
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    you should ask when some of the top legal minds in the country started the federalist society and why most libertarian and conservative legal scholars, judges and attorneys do not belong to the ABA
     
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    so you claim that "the earth exists" is equal in veracity with this claim

    his comment requires that he has searched the speeches and writings of every politician and not one of them ever called an opponent or political enemies vermin or stated they are LIKE VERMIN.

    So are you going to claim that in 78 years no politician has ever called opponents "vermin" and then maintain that statement is as obviously true as "the earth exists"
     
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    Yeah, "top legal minds" and "Federalist Society" do not really belong in the same sentence.

    Aileen Cannon is a member of the Federalist Society and she got so slapped down the the conservative 11th circuit court that MY ears are still ringing.
     
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    I am going to ask you the same question I have asked several of your colleagues. So far zero have had the integrity to answer.

    What does one typically do to vermin?
     
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    depends-kill them, repel them, or safeguard one's property against them. Trump is a bombastic blow hard

    btw what is normally done to TRAITORS? Your side has been calling MAGA supporters TRAITORS and Trump has been called that millions of times. I find traitors to be lower than vermin BTW as do many folks
     
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    and Biden has a law degree. BFD. He is the leader of the Democrat Party. You should look into the academic credentials of

    Peter Douglas Keisler
    Steven G Calabresi
    Lee Liberman (Otis)
     
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    Some people keep them for pets, but most exterminate them. Trump said he would get rid of them. Meaning? He did not explain.
     
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    trump has also called the left traitors — as to what is done to traitors, in the US — nothing apparently.

    What would you do if Biden retweeted one of his supporters saying the only good republican is a dead one? Think that would make the news? Do you think that is worse than traitor?


    Him being a “blowhard” is causing some severe issues in this nation.
     
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    And he called free press "the enemy of the state"
     
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    Trump haters are going to pretend that Trump spews hate and that their side does not. Trump lovers are going to point out the Democrats spew hate as well while pretending that Trump's stupid statements are not worth worrying about
     
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    There is a difference between citizens spewing hate and the president of the United States doing it. But for the record, if Biden supporters were having parades worshiping their god and screaming **** your feelings I would be immensely less likely to vote for him.
     
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    don't disagree but lots of leaders of the Democratic Party and allied wings of it have calledTrump supporters and Trump a traitor. Look, what Trump said was moronic. No argument there. but to pretend he and his are the only side that does it is not accurate. the level of political discourse has sunk into the swamp
     
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    I am not pretending Democrats are perfect, far from it — if I had another option I would take it when it came time to vote.

    But no one, and I mean no one in a national key position pushes the narrative like trump.
     
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