Do you support Abortion in the case of rape?

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Do you support Abortion in the case of rape?

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You guys are comical! :laughing:


     
  2. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Nearly as much as you guys are :roflol:
     
  3. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Take the quotes in the context they are meant, both quotes are from posts relating to early term abortions, not post viability.

    "Most of them will tell you no" .. but not all, just as you pointed out to me not all pro-lifers are religiously motivated, same applies to pro-choice, not all are in agreement as to when a fetus becomes a person.
    The two terms have become polarized .. if there was a third term that related to abortion up to the point of viability, then that is the term I would assign to myself. As there is not and I choose to support the womans right to choose up to a point, where as the pro-life position is predominately no abortion at all then I associated myself more with pro-choice than pro-life.

    That beggars the assumption that third trimester abortions are done for elective reasons, something that no pro-lifer has been able to provide any evidence to support.

    Comparing chalk and cheese here I see

    She doesn't, third term trimester abortions are performed for medical reasons, not on a woman's whim, unless you have evidence to show differently.

    And such is your right to have those beliefs, I disagree and the evidence supports my disagreement.
     
  4. Gemini_Fyre

    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    To the OP. I can't say I ever support abortion for any reason. But what a person does with their freedom within the bounds of the law is largely up to them - regardless of whether or not I approve of it.
     
  5. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    And that is the most sensible comment I have ever seen from a pro-life person.
     
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    Gemini_Fyre New Member

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    It's would be funny if it weren't so true. Normally I'd go into my well known plug "...bla bla bla...states rights...bla bla bla...feds should not be involved...bla bla bla...personal responsibility...bla bla bla..." - But I have learned that deaf ears usually don't hear, nor do blind eyes see.
     
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    No, don't murder the child because of the wrongdoing of the father.
     
  8. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    sigh .. here we go again.

    1. It isn't murder, at best it could be seen as some sort of homicide (I don't agree with that either), in order for it to be either it would have to be an illegal act.
    2. It isn't a 'child', it would be a fetus at some stage of development.

    do you feel the same way about incestual pregnancies, after all its only the wrongdoing of the father/brother/uncle.
     
  9. WhatNow!?

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    No child is murdered in an abortion so you're Off Topic....


    And no woman should have her entire life altered because of the "wrong doing" (RAPE) by the "father" who obviously is Anti-Choice having taken away a woman's choice.
     
  10. Hairball

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    Actually a fetus is a child in the fetal stage of its lifespan.

    The ignorance of biology shown by the pro-death crowd astounds me.

    Yes.
     
  11. Cady

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    That makes no sense according to the definition of child:

    It's like saying a fetus is a fetus in the fetal stage of its lifespan. As you can see, an unborn child is not the same thing as a born child.
     
  12. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and the ignorance of the English language shown by the anti-women crowd astounds me.

    Definition of Child.

    noun (plural children /ˈtʃɪldr(ə)n/)

    a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority: she’d been playing tennis since she was a child the film is not suitable for children
    a son or daughter of any age: when children leave home, parents can feel somewhat redundant
    an immature or irresponsible person: she’s such a child!
    a person who has little or no experience in a particular area:he’s a child in financial matters

    Please do tell me where it declares that a foetus is a child in it's "fetal stage of development" in any way, shape or form.

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/child
     
  13. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Furthermore a foetus is a stage in the development of a Homo Sapient, just a a child is.
     
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    Right here...

     
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    A woman who has been raped should get a rape kit at a hospital, be checked for STDs and HIV and be administered the morning after pill.
     
  16. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I see you are falling for the same trap as so many other pro-lifers .. tell me how old are you, and where do you measure your age from .. is it from birth or from conception, if like the majority its from birth then you are guilty here of interpretation of the evidence to suit your assumption .. the "age" in that comment, is and always has been, referring to post birth ie age of a human is always measured from birth to death, not from conception to death. Do you know why that is .. I will tell you, because it is impossible to pinpoint the exact time of conception, unlike the time of birth, so if we did measure our age from conception none of us would actually know how old we are.
     
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    It's no trap, it's biology 101.

    Much of the pro-death crowd simply denies biology in their attempt to dehumanize the victim. And much of it is also simply ignorant of biology.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    what part of biology am I being ignorant of, please specify?

    BTW, We weren't discussing biology we were discussing words and the correct usage and meaning.
     
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    The current legal opinion agrees with you, and this is also a personal opinion.

    Scientific opinions vary largely upon personal opinion. So ultimately, your post is nothing more that emotive and opinionated thrashing.

    Just like this one.

    Any other opinions you'd like to share with the class or would you like to dazzle us with facts every now and then?
     
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    You first!


    C'mon, try really hard , you can do it !

    Try a fact even if they scare you like this one did....""No child is murdered in an abortion so you're Off Topic...."""


    Your emotional pouting with insults is getting just so borrrrrring.....

    :)
     
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    Pine cones, they come from pine trees - fact.

    Your turn.

    Indeed, frightened, to the core.

    /sarcasm.

    Where did either occur? You cannot charge me with offenses committed in your own mind.

    Fetuses aren't people eh? That really depends on who you ask, thus making it an opinion. And in some cases, that opinion has force of law. It doesn't change the fact that it is an opinion.

    For example, some people might consider you intelligent, this would be an opinion. Largely because intelligence has an infinite amount of reference points and what others might consider intelligence. For all I know, you could be a wop genius at math, busting out calculus and chemistry in your spare time. Then again, you could be as dense as uranium-238 and still think paint chips are a midmorning snack - don't know. Point is that is is subjective and difficult to quantify. And things that are difficult to quantify are hard to nail down as facts.

    Savvy?
     
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    If a woman is raped, she was a victim of a horrendous crime, therefore, she should not be forced to have that baby.
     

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