Does "Israel" have the right to exist ?

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  1. Black Monarch

    Black Monarch New Member

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    Exactly. However, the people of Palestine have a right to form such a state, and that right is being violated.
     
  2. cassandrabandra

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    in what way was einstein a fraud?

    can you provide some evidence that would warrant such an observation?
     
  3. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Yeah, whatever is right. I don't suppose you have independent
    responsible verification for this information do you? No....of course not.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2011
    Just this year alone, tens of dozens of missile attacks have been launched against Israel. If more Israelis are not hit or dead it is not for lack of trying.
    If you people have to lie in order to make your arguments, what does that say about them? Think about it.
     
  4. DA60

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    The Israeli's have extremely advanced weapons.

    They can kill as few or as many Palestinian's as they wish.

    Yet the Israeli leaders choose to use their military to deliberately kill many times as many Palestinian civilians as the Palestinian terrorists kill Israeli civilians.
     
  5. Borat

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    You said before individuals only have rights, people (nations) have no rights, now you claim they do. Which is it?

    Moreover according to your latest breakthrough in logic people have a right to form a state which has no right to exist. I am afraid you'll have to keep working on your thesis a tad longer to explain this paradox. LOL
     
  6. cassandrabandra

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    Just curious - why do the zionists on this forum never respond to genuine antisemitism?
     
  7. Yosh Shmenge

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    Who told you this? The little hateful propaganda man in your head?
     
  8. DA60

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    The source for the stats is B'Tselem:

    'B'Tselem (Hebrew: בצלם‎, "in the image of", as in Genesis 1:27) is an Israeli non-governmental organization (NGO). It calls itself "The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories". The group was founded on February 3, 1989 by a group of prominent Israeli public figures, including lawyers, academics, journalists, and members of the Knesset.'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B'Tselem


    And your proof that the statistics are false is...?
     
  9. DA60

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    Common sense.
     
  10. Borat

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    Do they claim Israel deliberately targets civilians? Or it's your own claim?
     
  11. Yosh Shmenge

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    Ah...so you've even named the hateful little propaganda source in your head.
     
  12. DA60

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    Whatever...
     
  13. The Judge

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    You seem to have a major issue with the facts on the table.
     
  14. Yosh Shmenge

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    Shouldn't your claim be proved true first of all? It's your claim, you know. Not mine and just because you have a group that claims something that doesn't automatically make their claim absolutely true. I hope you realize this. So who verifies their claim?
     
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    No, that would be from the department of common sense again.

    They are entirely independent.


    And your proof that killing all those innocent Palestinian civilians by the IDF was an accident is...?
     
  16. Yosh Shmenge

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    "Facts"? I have not seen proof of these "facts" as of yet. I've seen claims. Big difference.
     
  17. DA60

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    So I have a claim by a (apparently) respected group of Israeli's.

    And you have zip.

    Hmmm...I'll go with mine.


    Have a nice day.
     
  18. Yosh Shmenge

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    Proof asked for. None provided. You don't have an argument. You have claims and contentions and no back up. Typical of the left.
     
  19. The Judge

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    Then, one is living in denial, like a Holocaust denier.... a hater of facts, favoring misconceptions in support of racial values. Such is what has become with much of modern Zionism.
     
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    The presumption of innocence to begin with and the [common sense] fact that if Israel indeed targeted civilians the death toll would be millions.
     
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    As a parliamentary system as a democratic republic with universal suffrage of 6 million Jews and 2 million, primarily arab non jews, within Israel and the west bank settlements, the individuals rights to live in peace exist in the nation
     
  22. The Judge

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    This is no different from claiming that the murder of hated Semites is honorable as long as Holocausts are avoided. It is amazing how low some Zionists can stoop at times.
     
  23. The Judge

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    Such would require ethnic cleansing which is a crime against humanity. Why can't Zionism exist without being heavily criminal?
     
  24. Borat

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    The claim was that Israel does not deliberately targets civilians. The claim was that there was absolutely no evidence of deliberate targeting of civilians against Israel. The latest claim is that you have reading comprehension problems.
     
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  25. Yosh Shmenge

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    Look, a claim of killings was made and even a nice little graph was provided as a visual aid. Either you can independently verify what was claimed or you can't and instead spew out accusative B.S. infused posts like this one of yours.
    Be a man and back your claims, if you can. If you can't, don't throw stones at me (like the Palestinian rabble). Your failure is not my fault.
     
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