Does the weakness of the GOP field improve Obama's chances for re-election?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering if I'm the only one having trouble ciphering all the gobblygook you write. Perhaps others got tired and simply left.
     
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    thebrucebeat Banned

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    We finally agree on something.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Since it is fallacious you can stop now. Government intervention into the markets is what is responsible.
     
  4. Dan40

    Dan40 New Member

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    If you had even a rudimentary grasp of reality, you wouldn't make such posts.

    Premise ONE. Banks ARE businesses. Like all businesses, they are in business to make a profit. They do NOT exist for ANY emotional or moral reasons. PROFIT is their reason.

    And shipping costs have gone up every year for decades. As a businessman you find ways to cope with all cost increases. Layoffs ARE the last resort. 1. You don't want to lose your people. 2. YOU, the employer, have to pay their unemployment compensation. The govt does not pay it, the employer does. So you find a new process that lowers production costs or a new supplier that lowers production costs. Or you decrease your warranty period which lowers production costs. Or you simply change your FOB terms to FOB, your shipping point. Or you INCREASE prices just like the shipping company did.
    What you don't do is get lost in philosophical nonsense and pee your pants.
    Every day in business REQUIRES some problem be solved.
     
  5. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Yeah, it is kind of imagined.

    One, all of the media attention has been given to the 8 Pubes for over a year now. Once they pick somebody, the poor fella is going to have his arse handed to him. If Romney gets the nomination, the Baggers and Baptists are going to stay home by the millions. If Huntsman get the nomination, the dumbbells will stay home in the tens of millions. The rest are a comedy of stooges.

    Two, not all Americans are savvy voters, but most know the Pubes have torpedoed Obama's every move. If I was Obama's media consultant, I'd be running the McConnell clip ("my highest priority is to make Obama a one-term president') non-stop for the three months leading up to the election.

    Three, not everybody has forgotten what Bush did to the economy, and the fact that we're not all selling pencils out of a cup has been a miracle.
     
  6. thebrucebeat

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    I have to disagree.
    When Phil Gramm pulled apart the almost seventy year old regulations on banking, it didn't take five years for the housing market to collapse. Deregulation caused the bubble and the crash.
    The same dynamic happened during the era of the robber barons and the laissez faire economic policies that allowed their abuse of the system.
    When you take your hands off of industry, industry will crush you.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Nope the deregulation didn't lower the standards nor down payment or income reporting requirements. The only problem with regulations was the regulators where looking the other way when it came to Fannie and Freddie.
     
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    Naive. Without the deregulation, loans would not have been able to be packaged to hide all the junk that the packages contained. That ability is what made it viable to write all the junk loans that were written. They wouldn't be judged individually, or even seen as individual loans. They could write crap and not pay the piper.
    That was all thanks to Phil Gramm and deregulation. The effects were felt in record time.
     
  9. gregdavidson

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    It was OIL! I'm going to keep on saying that until somebody listens.
     
  10. gregdavidson

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    Junk loans were an artificial solution that Clinton and Greenspan came up with to stimulate the economy. Which it did temporarily. The system collapsed because higher fuel prices caused companies to lay off the people with these loans. This created a huge surplus of foreclosure which brought down the prices of homes. Why pay for a home that isn't going to go up in value? If gas prices never went up, we wouldn't be having this problem.
     
  11. philxx

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    Newt Gindrich,all over its called you heard it here first !

    Obama v\s Gindrich now lets stop wasting time ElectionNow! why wait !?
     

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