Does the weakness of the GOP field improve Obama's chances for re-election?

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  1. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

    Why do the polls show otherwise?...even the Republimussen polls...
     
  2. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not just the affairs for Newt...but charges of obstruction of justice, and the affair with a congressional staffer.

    Having an affair at work...right after he lead the charge to impeach Clinton for having one at work....can be exploited

    Obama's list of gaffes, over the course on 4 years....is minimal compared to Cain, Bachmann, and Perry. Newt is very good about not gaffing.

    And you're absolutely right.....everybody in Washington talks out of both ends.
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What obstruction of justice charge did Gingrich face?

    Clinton was not impeached for having an affair.

    No they are right up there.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Asinine premise.Thoroughly wrong-sided and about as dopey as
    Hope & Change.Obama never as mush ran a lemonade stand.In fact the
    guy never really held a job.Not even as a kid.There's nothing to prove
    Obama had success except his Affirmative Action appointment to
    be President of the Harvard Law Review.But again,to add insult,
    Not one page of any Review was ever made available.
    Virtually every candidate has had Real success either in the private
    sector,as a Politician or Governor,or all Three.
    The Country as it stands right this minute is all the proof any
    lamebrain needs to decide if Obama is credibly more impressive
    than any Republican candidate.Yet,this Lamsetream thinks it can
    perform anoither miracle and spin Obama into victory.It won't
    work.Not even close.Americans by and large have had enough of this
    Obama experiment.In fact,most the country,even fellow Democrat
    Politicians can't stand to hear the guy spiel on { lecture w/teleprompter}
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure it was official charges or not, but it had tio do with something regarding a guy named Wright.....oh man....don't make me look it up....that was the 90's.

    Right right right...Clinton was impeached for lieing...and isn't that just the first time any president, or Washington politician has done that...

    Don't get me wrong Blues....I'm not against Newt at all. I was merely pointing out what I think the DNC will try to exploit if he's nominated. I haven't made up my mind yet...but if Newt or Romney isn't nominated...my ears will still be listening at the debates, but I can't image pulling the lever for Perry or Cain..
     
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    I missed the part where somebody actualy proved that Obama only made EDITOR of the Harvard Law Review because of affrimative action?.....

    ....is that just your guess?
     
  7. Corfieldb

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    This is a pretty remarkable case study on the myopicness of many members of PF.

    My OP was pretty low key in terms of gratuitous Conservative bashing, plus, there was some criticism directed at Obama.

    To attack my premise that the GOP field is weak, I think is a little silly because I've heard comments from all sides of the political spectrum say the exact same thing. Further, the polls are laying out a pretty steady diet of mostly middling numbers for each of these guys. Some are downright pathetic.

    I have to think if Daniels, Christie, Rubio, etc. were in the fray, we'd see stronger numbers in the polls.

    This field is not, in my opinion the Conservative A team.
     
  8. Corfieldb

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    This is a pretty remarkable case study on the myopicness of many members of PF.

    My OP was pretty low key in terms of gratuitous Conservative bashing, plus, there was some criticism directed at Obama.

    To attack my premise that the GOP field is weak, I think is a little silly because I've heard comments from all sides of the political spectrum say the exact same thing. Further, the polls are laying out a pretty steady diet of mostly middling numbers for each of these guys. Some are downright pathetic.

    I have to think if Daniels, Christie, Rubio, etc. were in the fray, we'd see stronger numbers in the polls.

    This field is not, in my opinion the Conservative A team.
     
  9. gregdavidson

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    The Republican field is weakening because it's filled with a bunch of radicals who don't understand the consequences of their bizarre ideas.
     
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    You have to look beyond the headlines and analysis of the mainstream press. Consider who it is that has pronounced them all "weak." It's the mainstream liberal press. And they are doing everything they can to make it appear that way. Consider the recent 53 seconds out of a 2 hour debate by Perry. What did the press CHOOSE to focus on.....you got it: the 53 seconds. That was 53 seconds made that long by one of the liberal commentators who continued to ask Perry the question even after it was clear he was drawing a blank at that moment.

    A little advice: do not listen to the spin by the mainstream liberals and their commentators. It's ALL designed to assist Barack Obama. You are going to need to do your own work here by examining their beliefs, their records, their experience, and their plans for the country.

    Remember that....this is the same press/media who continue to give Obama a break on important things like Solyndra and Fast and Furious. Compare the number of front page stories across the nation about Perry's 53 seconds versus the front page stories about the Solyndra scandal and Fast & Furious.

    I rest my case.
     
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    Really????.......that makes me sad.....and it's kind of depressing to think people believe the advocacy media
     
  13. Corfieldb

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    I did a little more of my own work and look what I came up with...

    Rush Limbaugh, Juan Williams/Fox News, National Review, Huntsman advisor John Weaver, The American Conservative, The Guardian, Right leaning Washington Examiner, Roger Simon, , Newsmax/Jim DeMint, etc...

    Maybe these are all just liberals in disguise, eh?
     
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    I agree that the punishment for a minor mistake was way too severe.

     
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    You realize your best candidates are a mormon everybody hates, a fat blowhard that hasn't been relevant since the 90's and a pizza man who doesn't know china has nuclear weaponry.

    The cast of "How I met your mother" would have a better chance of beating the President.
     
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    Obama wasn't an Affirmative Action student.. He was a legacy student ...like George Bush.
     
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    Whom from Obama's family had attended Harvard before him?.....his Dad?
     
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    We need to be consistent.....we either allow all of Washington to operate this way....or we don't put up with minor mistakes.

    I don't like these pseudo pragmatic pardons based on previous relationships...unless of course they're given out fairly and equally....since that'll never happen.....well..you know.
     
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    Oh it wasn't an "official charge" what is "unofficial perjury"?

    You don't know what you are talking about.

    Under oath in federal court and then in a federal grand jury............yes.

    What are they going to exploit? He had two marriages fail and ended in divorce? When they still put Clinton up on a pedestal and would rally round him if Obama nominated him for the SCOTUS even though he still is forbidden from arguing a case before them?
     
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    I realize all you have is hyperbole.
     
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    It's the GOP, what more is necessary?
     
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    Do you consider Anne Coulter to be part of the "mainstream liberals"? She finds the crop to be a hopeless trainwreck, too.
     
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    Yes...... His father..
     
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    Do you know what a legacy student is? Who opened those doors for the President?
     

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