Does Zionism= Racism?

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Is Zionism a form of racism?

  1. Yes

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  2. Only partially

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    17.4%
  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    bro, the Edomites haven't existed for 2,000 years.

    if however, "Edomite" is just a racist code-word for white people, that's very sad & pathetic.
     
  2. J0NAH

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    edomite-jacob, twins. how can a woman have a black and a white baby?
    youre not thinking are you. this all comes down to your hate for another
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    err, one was not black and the other white.

    I don't know where you got such a silly idea, but whomever told it to you, lied.

    :)
     
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    agreed, they cannot be different if they were twins which leads us to the very strange occurrence of Albinism.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol!!!!!!

    Essau was not an Albino.

    The Black Hebrew Israelites who told you this stuff, really weren't thinking too straight.
     
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    note to thyself; this thread is about to be deleted because the theme of Albinism is raised. If there is a taboo subject besides melanin then it is Albinism. Goodbye folk.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    dude, you brought it up.

    did the Black Hebrew Israelites really tell you that Essau was an albino?

    lol!! :roflol:
     
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    IM NOT GAY!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one has accused you of being Gay.
     
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    no-one said Esau was white either.:eekeyes:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one really cares, either, as neither man actually existed.

    Its myth/allegory.
     
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    exactly. you finally got it, its allegory/metaphor. well done Esau.
     
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    is that another racist pejorative? looks like it.
     
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    was Esau white now?
     
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    Folks, let's all remember that the subject of this thread is whether or not Zionism equals racism.

    All other subject matter will be 100% ignored.
     
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    Some kind of patriotism(of course we're talking not about REAL patriotism) is a kind of racism, u know?
    And people who think that his race is better than others(like Al Sharpton f.e) are racists, so it's make their beliefs racist too!
     
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    So you're controlling the results with some preconceived notion? :roflol: No, no bias here.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One could argue that Zionism itself, is not racist.

    Unfortunately the actions of almost all Israeli governments since 1948 have been racist, and therefore people associate Zionism with racism.

    if the shoe fits.
     
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    Zionism is not racist.

    The actions of all Israeli governments since 1948 have been heroic, patriotic and wonderful and therefore people associate Zionism with heroism.
     
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    actually, the Israel govt. has engaged in many racist and war criminal actions since 1948.

    this includes: ethnic cleansing, theft of private land, segregation, mass-murder, destruction of holy sites, etc.



    this is why many folks associate Zionism with racism
     
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    yes, many Zionists are in fact racist.

    and unfortunately, many Zionists believe that destroying Arab homes and kicking Arabs out of Israel, is the fulfillment of Zionism.
     
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    Unfortunately, many Zionists advocate genocide and ethnic cleansing.

    many also say that expelling the Arabs, so that the Jewish state only has Jews, is the fulfillment of Zionism.

    when they say things like this, they give weight to the argument that Zionism=racism.
     
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    plus the only folks who seem to embrace the term "Zionist", seem to want to restrict non-Jewish rights in Israel, kick the Arabs out of the West Bank, etc.
     
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    I voted NO. Well, you didn't give that option, but it deserves to be there, in the interest of intellectual honesty.

    I read up on what Zionism is...

    "Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement that has had as its goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”). Though Zionism originated in eastern and central Europe in the latter part of the 19th century, it is in many ways a continuation of the ancient attachment of the Jews and of the Jewish religion to the historical region of Palestine, where one of the hills of ancient Jerusalem was called Zion"

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/657475/Zionism

    Doesn't seem to be racism at all, wanting a jewish state where they at one time lived in ancient times.

    Zionism made that happen, and it would not have happened without that very old movement.

    So they have it now, and Zionism proper realized its goal. Anything you want to add to Zionism is your own doing, if you accept the actual definition of what Zionism is.

    I am curious Ronstar. Would you have been happier if all of the world's jews had been exterminated during ww2?
     
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    I have to admit, it has been a long, long time since I have seen anyone as anti-Israel and Jewish as you. But that is your prerogative. Perhaps you should read your own signature line to see if it applies. This is all I have to say, have a nice day.
     

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