DOJ tramples on the Constitution

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said"All mandated under the Biden administration." I think hormones or surgery before 18 is ridiculous. Same as I would oppose girls before 18 getting 40 double D boob jobs. Or guys getting a 10 inch implant before 18. Even with parents consent.
     
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    What about after 18? Who pays? Who decides who pays?
     
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    Just like with 40 double D boob jobs, the recipient of the boobs should pay.
    A recent Sweedish study over 30 years found that those who medically transition have 19 times the risk of suicide. None of these procedures do anything for the mental health of the transgendered. If anything they make it worse. Nothing more than voluntary cosmetic surgeries.
     
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    There are people born with ambiguous genitalia. How about them?

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ambiguous-genitalia/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20369278
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    As George W. Bush noted 2 decades ago, the Constitution is just a piece of toilet paper.

    The DOJ and the entire federal government has been trampling on the Constitution for many long years. That's why we have no rule of law in this country.
     
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    5th amendment is based on unreasonable search and seizures, aka involuntary seizure of property. Subpoenas are voluntary. It requires you to take action. That action can be to comply, appeal to the courts, or ignore the subpoena. But ignoring the subpoena may cause the person to face legal charges such as obstruction of justice.

    It is like this. if the owner of the property gives permission for the police to search the premises, the police find something incriminating to the owner of the property, the owner then cannot claim unreasonable search and seizure.
     
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    A subpoena has to exist based on probable cause, or reasonable suspicion. They can't be issued at will, willy nilly.
     
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    Sure it does. There are distinct qualification requirements for these type of groups 501c4. I would suspect the DOJ has reasonable suspicion the group is operating outside their charter. “Create or influence state law” would certainly fall outside their scope. Sure. Most know they’re created to evade campaign finance law, taxation, and utilized for that express purpose but that doesn’t make it right.
     
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    All irrelevant to the current constitutional challenge of the Alabama law and the resulting subpoena. .
     
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    Some have genitals that don't match their DNA.

    I assume you aren't opposed to helping them.
     
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    As this one is. It’s simply a giant fishing expedition through all of the documents of the political opposition looking for anything they can press charges on if they find something they don’t like
     
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    No it does not.
     
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    The lady is a true believer in the reality constructed by her overlords. :alcoholic:
     
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    Almost all of the pre op transgender have genitals that match their DNA

    Probably best to leave that until 18 yrs old as well.
     
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    Yes, but that isn't true for some as I pointed out.
    Incredibly cruel and why I would never support your law even though I'm inclined to support measures to generally ban reassignment surgery for children.
     
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    Did you read your link? Investigative subpoenas do not rely on the presumption of a crime. It depends on the agency and the reason why a subpoena will be issued. Investigative subpoenas are used more often than you realize and you can attempt to quash the subpoena based on a variety of arguments and let the court decide.
     
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    You still have not shown proof of that claim, merely an allegation.
     
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    Nah, I just know more about the law than you and most other conservatives on this forum. What I know is not much, compared to a lawyer, but it far outweighs what you and other think you know.
     
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    You come across as one perhaps living in the Ivory Tower constructed by mainstream media. Unless they tell you how history has been rewritten, you have no clue that it happens all the time. Peace, out.
     
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    You wokesters could start a fund called "The sterilization project."
     
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    Did you read the part I quoted?
     

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