Donald Trump indicted in Georgia Election Probe

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  1. Bluesguy

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    And this is a clear case of why they should remain secret.
     
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    What you think it should be and what the law actually is are two different things. A point you drive home in almost every post you make.
     
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    When is Lindsay Graham getting indicted?
     
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    Because the grand jury proceedings are strictly from the view point of the prosecution with no rebuttal of their witness or the their testimony about other persons of a chance for people to defend themselves against testimony. Just like a regular grand jury.
     
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    He's not... that FABULOUS ship has sailed, with all of Lindsey's metrosexual buddies providing the onboard entertainment...

    Here's are some fun (conflicting) quotes from Captain Sedition today...

    SNIP
    Former President Donald Trump said that he received counsel from numerous people shortly after the 2020 election but that it was his decision to push the false claim he won the presidency and try to overturn the results.

    “It was my decision, but I listened to some people,” Trump told NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview that aired Sunday.

    You know who I listen to? Myself. I saw what happened,” Trump said.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-decision-try-overturn-174422967.html

    Also, although I'm not a regular MTP watcher, and I generally wish Kristen Welker the best, I'm not for giving platforms to serial liars.... Horrible way to lead off your new career...
     
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    Trump's stream of conciousness never fails to entertain.....;).
     
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  7. Egoboy

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    If Trump wanted to give a plea of insanity, he'd be putting a very solid case together. But its clear that Trump's mea rea was on the intent of 'proving' the perceived fraud, rather than to perpetuate it.
     
  9. Egoboy

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    Which, as there was no fraud, became the only fraud in town....

    See indictment....

    His mens and his rea went in separate directions years go...
     
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    Don't ya just love the Trump-humping power hungry whores who loved Trump until they didn't?
    Enter Jenna Ellis.

    'Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis turns on ‘malignant narcissist’ ex-president'
    'Ellis, one of 18 Trump associates charged in Georgia election subversion case, says she ‘simply can’t support him’ again'

    VOMIT WORTHY

    Deace said: “Before that man [Trump] needs to be president again … [to] escape the quote-unquote, ‘witch-hunts’, that man needs Jesus again because … his ambitions would be fueled by showing some self-awareness. And he won’t do it because he can’t admit, ‘I’m not God.’”

    Ellis said Deace had “perfectly articulated exactly how I as a voter feel”. She knew Trump well “as a friend, as a former boss”, she said, adding: “I have great love and respect for him personally.

    “But everything that you just said resonates with me as exactly why I simply can’t support him for elected office again. Why I have chosen to distance is because of that, frankly, malignant narcissistic tendency to simply say that he’s never done anything wrong.

    “And the total idolatry that I’m seeing from some of the supporters that are unwilling to put the constitution and the country and the conservative principles above their love for a star is really troubling.

    “And I think that we do need to, as Americans and as conservatives and particularly as Christians, :roflol: take this very seriously and understand where are we putting our vote.”



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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/15/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis
     
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    Anyone in the past who had been paying attention to Welker's reporting on anything pertaining to Trump saw how she always gave Trump a pass.
    Can she be even worse than Chuck Todd?
    Looks that way.
     
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  13. Egoboy

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    I'm not sure there's a reporter on the planet who can talk over the perpetual liar... I have no major problems with Welker in general...

    The only solution is to stop giving him a platform... Permanently....

    The only exception should be a POTUS debate, which he won't attend, since he's not mentally capable of participating...
     
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    This^!
    My exact thoughts.....they are doing harm to democracy by allowing the fire hose of falsehood to spread his lies mostly unchallenged. The two parties are not the same today when it comes to having ANY lines or rules. The Trump Party can't be treated any longer as having any moral compass nor following the rule of law. The media has to keep their focus on preserving democracy as they will be the FIRST casuality under a Trump autocracy.
     
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    One of the top crazies surrounding Trump.

    Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood is a witness in Georgia election subversion case, district attorney says
    Source: CNN Politics

    Published 11:56 AM EDT, Wed September 20, 2023
    CNN — Pro-Donald Trump lawyer Lin Wood is a “witness for the state” in the Georgia election subversion case, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis revealed Wednesday. The reference to Wood was buried in a new court filing by the DA’s office that raised potential conflicts of interest for six defense attorneys because they previously represented witnesses or other defendants in related proceedings.

    Wood was previously subpoenaed by prosecutors in the Georgia probe but his status as a witness for the state was not previously known. “Lin Wood is a witness for the State in the present case,” the court filing says.

    As a witness, Wood could be subject to cross-examination by his former attorney and co-counsel who is now representing former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark in the Georgia RICO probe – creating a potential conflict of interest.

    Wood, a prominent right-wing attorney and election denier, filed a series of meritless lawsuits after then-President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, which were filled with debunked theories about massive voter fraud that went nowhere in the courts.'

    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/politics/lin-wood-georgia-election-subversion-case/index.html
     
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  16. Egoboy

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    Well, he'd better be a top flight witness to overcome being a top flight kook. I do remember his being involved with the attempted steal of Georgia, so he might actually be useful here...
     
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    Hopefully for Smith Wood came with the goods cause Wood is dangerous crazy.
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    So Pence will save the election as President of the senate then get arrested. Not a chance. Something in your logic doesn’t add up. Please explain.


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    If Pence is arrested, @SecPompeo will save the election. Pence will be in jail awaiting trial for treason. He will face execution by firing squad. He is a coward & will sing like a bird & confess ALL.
    1:02 PM · Jan 1, 2021
     
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  18. Egoboy

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    I think you mean hopefully for Fani... this is now her nut to crack... literally
     
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    Yep, Fani.
    Thanks again, as we know it's not the first time I got confused with these cases.
    Won't be the last either.
    Looks like she cracked him already or he doesn't have the money to fight her?
     
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    Well, she still has to get his butt in a witness chair and tell a consistent, coherent story...
     
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    Your post got me to thinking (uh oh! lol). Not just in the Georgia case, but in all, Trump proclaims he is innocent of the charges and has a perfect explanation. If it were me, and I knew I was innocent or have a good explanation, I would request a meeting with the prosecutor to come in and discuss it, and if my reasoning was good enough, come up with a viable solution to the situations.
    The only three reasons Trump doesn't I can come up with are:
    A. He isn't as innocent as he proclaims
    B. Fear of saying something stupid, making matters worse.
    C. He wants this as he feels it makes him sort of a martyr, which is actually happening to a degree.
    It could be a combination of all three, but IF he were so innocent and has good explanations as he says, why doesn't he seem willing to do what I outlined above?
    It worked for Hillary, as she sat for an 8 hour interview with the FBI, after which they determined her case was unprosecutable.
    Just a random thought for a Thursday morning.
    I'm sure a Trump supporter of two can explain why these ideas are ridiculous.
     
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    Along with Giuliani.
    Good times.
     
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    Those 3 are in the mix, but you left out the most obvious answer., which I fully accept.

    He's mentally unstable...

    He hid it well enough (most days) during his failed presidency, but now that he cannot hide behind others fronting the administration, it's crystal clear.
     
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    You are correct, I failed to consider, maybe, the most obvious.
    I will amend my statement:
    D Mentally unstable.
    Forgive my ignorance................
     
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    Not ignorance, my friend.... he goes to decent lengths to hide it, but it's readily apparent, even with the limited amount I see/hear him anymore.
     
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