Donald Trump indicted on 7 counts in classified documents probe

I heard about that.

Sorry, there is no way to prevent where the heads of The American People are when they vote for elected officials. It’s their choice to make.

I think, The current Biden/Harris Administration is proof there is no way to prevent where their heads were when they were voting.

That didn’t happen water under the bridge.

 

I wish DeSantis and his ilk would stop telling pernicious lies about Democrats and DOJ. It's sadly to be expected from Trump at this point since he is only ever rewarded for it by his cult members, but the Republican politicians who choose to stay on that bandwagon to help themselves are actively harming the country as a whole, just as they did by amplifying his Big Lie about the 2020 election and thereby contributed to the January 6 violence. If they're not going to put country before self and party and if voters are not going to hold them to account, then what the hell does that mean for the future of our country, our society, our democracy? Those who believe the lies are more likely to cheat and condone cheating by their side, so our whole way of life and America as we know it are now at risk because of one deranged con man's unending lies and the behavior of others in the Republican party, now the Radical party, the Conspiracy Theorist party, the Undemocratic and Unrepublican party.

 

Trump sure did use loyal Walt Nauta who wasn''t as savvy as the lawyers around Trump who knew his scheme was illegal and thereby some tried to protect themselves should Trump go down.
Could other indictments be forthcoming?
I find that Walt Nauta being the only one hard to believe.


'The Stupidest Crimes Imaginable'
Opinion by David A. Graham • 45m ago

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'In particular, Special Counsel Jack Smith alleges a few key points. First, that Trump handled the classified material exceptionally sloppily and haphazardly, including stashing documents in a shower, a bedroom, and—as depicted in a striking photo—onstage in a ballroom that frequently held events. Second, that Trump was personally involved in discussions about the documents, and in directing their repeated relocation. Third, that Trump was well aware of both the laws around classified documents and the fact that these particular documents were not declassified. Fourth, that Trump was personally involved in schemes to hide the documents not only from the federal government but even from his own attorneys. The indictment carefully lays out its case with pictures, texts, and surveillance footage.

In sum, the indictment depicts a man who knew that what he was doing was wrong, and went to great lengths to cover it up. Trump knew exactly how bad it would be if the documents were found, and wanted them destroyed or hidden. His fears, as manifested in his indictment, were well founded.

In brief comments at the Department of Justice this afternoon, Smith said that mishandling of classified information had endangered the nation’s security and the lives of service members and intelligence officers. “Violations of those laws put our country at risk,” he said.

cont:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-stupidest-crimes-imaginable/ar-AA1clQmq

 

He is (was) the face of the hateful bigotry that all religions engender. Hitchins was right…’Religion poisons everything…’

 

Said Katrina happened because God don't like the gays, and many other asinine borderline heretical comments.

He was a moneychanger, Christ would've chased him with a cat o nine.

 

Trump campaigned against Clinton in 2016’s final days:

“Hillary is likely to be under investigation for many years, probably concluding in a criminal trial.” — Nov. 2, 2016 in Orlando, Fla.

“She’ll be under investigation for years. She’ll be with trials. Our country, we have to get back to work.”– Nov. 4 in Atkinson, N.H.

“If she were to win this election, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial.” — Nov. 5 in Reno, N.V.

“Her current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency and we will make it honestly, look, it’s gonna be virtually impossible for her to govern.” — Nov. 5 in Denver, Colo.


DIAPER DOONIE'S"SECURITY" FOR OVER 100 NATIONAL SECURITY PAPERS

 

• 'According to the NYT, Trump picked former federal prosecutor Jim Trusty after seeing him on TV.'
  

'Trump hired one of the lawyers defending him in the Mar-a-Lago raid case after seeing him on TV, report says'

'Legal experts have, in the main, not been impressed with their efforts. As Insider reported earlier in August, one expert termed the team "either completely incompetent or out of their depth."

Renato Mariotti, a former longtime federal prosecutor, told Insider: "That's part of the reason why the former president has trouble finding lawyers: Because he demands that they file documents and take positions that have no legal support whatsoever."

Trump's legal team also includes Evan Corcoran, also a former prosecutor; Christina Bobb, a former host on One America New Network; Lindsey Halligan, a Florida insurance lawyer; and Alina Habba, the former general counsel for a parking-garage firm.

Corcoran is also said to have come into Trump's team in an unusual way. According to a recent Washington Post report, Trump hired him in a conference call without ever having met him.

According to a source close to Trump, Corcoran was not vetted at all.

Trump has aggressively responded to suggestions that he was struggling to hire good lawyers.'

 

He's charged with it

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information ..
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181340894/trump-indictment-classified-documents-charges

 

I believe Diaper Donnie's "circus" would still support him. Doubt Melania will though

 

BREAKS THE GAWDDAM LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

 

Without false premises, distortions and lies, what would the right wing ever have?

 

That's more than Diaper Donnie has done

BTW, It's the courts and jury who get to decide Donnie's innocence OR guilt

 

Obviously... otherwise, you'd be informed...

Back to the Q site for you...

 

The less than 20, none top secrect?

TRUMP: Roughly 300 documents with classification markings — including some at the top secret level — have been recovered from Trump since he left office in January 2021.

BUT when Diaper Donnie wins in 2024, he can get his DOJ to "investigate" with another special prosecutor, this ones for Diaper Donnie

 

You knew him well then, listened to him all the time?

 

Evidently you’ve got me mistaken with another poster. I didn’t and you didn’t prove anything by posting the text. The specifics are in the indictment.


In a nutshell, Trump took national defense documents, attempted to conceal his possession of the documents, AND disseminated national defense information to unauthorized people.

He’ll get his day in court before a clearly sympathetic judge, Aileen Cannon, but his actions are indefensible. If it wasn’t Trump, I’d be shocked that a former President would knowingly disclose highly classified national defense information.

 

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Ego there is a reason why you think the counts sound the same. They are the same offence but with a different document. Each document generates a different count. Keep up.

 

I don't know anything about the Q site, but you're apparently very familiar with it. One of the sources of information that shapes your views?

 

Good thing we have a special prosecutor who heard the tapes Diaper Donnie made


''The recording was made in the summer of 2021 as Trump spoke to researchers for a book being written by his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, according to people familiar with the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe elements of the case.

While there is a host of paper, video and witness evidence against Trump for alleged mishandling of classified information and obstruction of justice, the recording is significant because it undercuts a central claim that Trump has put forward since the investigation was opened last year — that he had somehow, at some time, declassified the hundreds of classified documents later found at his Mar-a-Lago home and private club.

Prosecutors obtained the recording and played it for at least one witness who appeared this year before a grand jury in Washington. In the recording, Trump complains about Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.''


https://archive.ph/UfN8o

 

If Trump was smart and responsible. He would opt out of the race for office
and reain a modicum of dignity....
The world is watching this...and it has figured out what type of person Trump is and how he has diminished the standing of this country on the world stage. this will just make the world a lot more cautious in dealing with the US........as how can it be trusted with classified info??
Trump has exposed himself for what he really is. and this indictment , so detailed, defines how.

And yet.McCarthy and a few others continue to defend him. This takes a fair bit of stupidity to not see how serious this is. Playing politics with it is unprofessional & irresponsible.

Will Trump encourage his cult to go to "war" for him? (like a good dictator would do)
He does not have the disposition for the job of POTUS.....he never did. His motives are not to serve the country .....but to serve himself only.

 

We'll see just how much credibility it has.

 

If Trump dropped out of the race, the charges would get dropped. Getting him out of the race is the primary objective.

 

And right again,

"Human decency is not derived from religion, It precedes it."

 

This is your post I'm referring to...

18USC 793(e) Willful detention of national defense information.

Yes. It’s quite likely. Also

18 USC 1001(a)1 Scheme to conceal.

Those two likely charges are what makes this case different than others repeatedly brought up, Biden, Pence, Clinton. The type of classified information, the possible dissemination of information, and lengths he went to retain the information. Remember Smith pierced the crime/fraud exception of attorney client privilege because the judge determined a crime had been committed. Edit to add: Trump attorney testified to Grand Jury.