Dr. Didier Rault Issues Response to Biased Study Critical of Hydroxychloroquine

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by Paul7, Apr 22, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,708
    Likes Received:
    9,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yawn tell us when you would have made your bold move lol

    January 1, 2020: Chinese authorities closed Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market.

    January 7: Chinese authorities identified the virus that caused the pneumonia-like illness as a new type of coronavirus (called novel coronavirus or nCoV).

    January 11: China recorded its first death linked to the novel coronavirus.

    January 13: The first coronavirus case outside of China was reported in Thailand.

    January 20: The first US case was reported: a 35-year-old man in Snohomish County, Washington.

    January 30: WHO declared a "public-health emergency of international concern."

    THE NEXT DAY
    January 31: President Trump banned foreign nationals from entering the US if they had been in China within two weeks prior.
    The Left reacts with intense criticism and accusations of racism

    February 2: The first COVID-19-related death outside of China was recorded in the Philippines.

    February 7: Wuhan doctor and coronavirus whistleblower Li Wenliang died. At the onset of the outbreak, Li warned some of his contacts from medical school about a new virus but was reprimanded by the authorities and forced to sign a letter acknowledging that he made "false comments."

    February 29: The US confirmed its first death from COVID-19 on American soil.

    March 9: Italy placed all 60 million of its residents on lockdown.

    March 11: WHO declared the outbreak a pandemic.

    March 11: President Trump banned all travel from 26 European countries.
    Again the Left erupts in rabid criticism and accusations of racism.

    March 13: A US national emergency was declared over the novel coronavirus outbreak.

    March 23: New York City became the epicenter of the coronavirus epidemic in the US, confirming nearly 21,000 cases.

    March 22: French Parliment declares pandemic emergency
    https://www.france24.com/en/20200322-french-parliament-declares-health-emergency-to-combat-pandemic

    April 7: Roughly 95% of all Americans was under some form of lockdown as a result of state, county, or city orders.
     
    AFM likes this.
  2. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,708
    Likes Received:
    9,783
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here's some more for Fresh
    February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.

    February 2: The CDC expanded enhanced entry screening to eight major airports across the nation.

    February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

    February 5: The Trump Administration and health officials briefed lawmakers on the Federal Government's coronavirus response efforts.

    February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.

    February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus.

    February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.

    February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.

    February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.

    February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.

    February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.

    February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.

    February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China.

    February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.

    February 25: HHS Secretary Azar testified before the Senate HELP committee on the Administration's coronavirus response efforts.

    February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.

    February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

    February 29: The Trump Administration:

    • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
    • Barred all travel to Iran.
    • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.
     
    AmericanNationalist and AFM like this.
  3. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    12,930
    Likes Received:
    11,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Ha! I was only trying to show the simplistic level of question that is being dodged daily. It would appear you get a gold star.
     
  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So no homework for you. Sad.
     
  5. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    12,930
    Likes Received:
    11,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Perhaps if you'd done your homework (ie. going through the entire exchange into which you'd jumped) you'd see that there was no homework required on my part. I was making a point - that no matter how many times asked, there are no specific answers given. And there you charge, doing the very same thing as the folks to whom I was referring. Good job!
     
  6. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only point you made is your lack of knowledge of the gating requirements for entering each of the three phases.
     
  7. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    12,930
    Likes Received:
    11,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I suppose that is an astute assessment if you consider only the point at which you jumped into the conversation.

    As I type, I'm watching Trump dodge the specific question - again - about testing. He will not commit to numbers at all. He falls back to his standard campaign line about how well he's doing on testing.
     
    FreshAir likes this.
  8. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He’s dodging nothing. And the medical experts state that we have sufficient capacity to meet the testing requirements for the first phase.
     
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  9. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    12,930
    Likes Received:
    11,387
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    When asking a question that requires a number for an answer and the responder says that the country is testing more than all the other countries combined, it's a dodge.
     
    FreshAir likes this.
  10. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    41,208
    Likes Received:
    20,973
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a fact(even Worldmeters has it). We've tested over 4 MILLION people thus far. Not even the Chinese have tested as such(which is in part to deflate their own numbers.)

    As much as we live in our mini-USSR experiment(which has been as dreadful as I thought it'd be when Cali was the first state to Shutdown), most doctors are gonna do the right thing, and if testing is available they will be tested.
     
  11. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What are the testing gating requirements for entering phase one ??? There is your answer.
     
  12. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,341
    Likes Received:
    63,478
    Trophy Points:
    113
    oh please, Trump played it down and called the concerns about the virus a hoax

    next time don't believe the Trump propaganda, we all lived through it, maybe in 20 years you can try to re-write history, not today
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2020
  13. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,341
    Likes Received:
    63,478
    Trophy Points:
    113
  14. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,341
    Likes Received:
    63,478
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus."

    24 days later Trump requested this, finally starting to take serious, democrats gave him 8 billion, more then he requested

    so what did he spend this money on, preparing? what, lets see some receipts, he wasted February golfing and tweeting and calling the concerns about the virus a hoax, what did he actually do?
     
  15. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,429
    Likes Received:
    17,419
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Are you still pushing the hoax lie? He was referring to the MSMs treatment of him, not the virus. Repeating the same BS over and over again doesn’t make it true.

    And please cite when Trump played it down and let’s compare it to the timeline of EVERYONE doing the same. If Trump played it down in Jan when he wanted to restrict travel from China and Democrats wanted to stop him, please explain who was taking it more serious? The guy wanting to stop travel or Congress wanting to pass a law preventing him from protecting us? How about Pelosi telling people to party in Chinatown?

    Use the timeline!!! Please provide context. Stop spirting our what you THINK people did or what you THINK they meant. It’s meaningless.
     
  16. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,582
    Likes Received:
    52,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SO YOU ADMIT THAT IT FAILED TO BRING THEM BACK FROM THE DEAD. THAT DAMN TRUMP! ORANGE MAN IS EVER WORST THAN I FEARED!

    FAKE NEWS: Trump Didn’t Fire Vaccine Chief for Questioning Hydroxychloroquine.

    It's important to keep batting down all the anti-Trump lies.

    On Wednesday, The Fake News Lying New York Times ran a story that President Donald Trump fired Dr. Rick Bright, an official leading the administration's efforts to create a coronavirus vaccine because he questioned hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for COVID-19. Other lying fake news outlets also pushed the narrative. In truth, Bright championed the use of hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus — and he hired the lawyers who represented Brett Kavanaugh's sexual assault accuser Christine Blasey Ford.

    Bright was fired for other reasons that have nothing to do with hydroxychloroquine — which has proven effective against COVID-19 in many cases when administered in conjunction with other drugs that minimize side-effects — but Ford's lying lawyers crafted this narrative as a foil to attack Trump for firing him.

    Dr. Bright, who served as director of the Department of Health and Human Services' Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), specifically asked the FDA to issue an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the emergency use of "oral formulations of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate for the treatment of 2019 coronavirus disease (COVID-19)."

    Bright was fired for completely different reasons: "incompetence and insubordination."
     
    AFM likes this.
  17. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The problem is that the general public never hears all this. In fact even Trump seemed unaware of the Didier Raoult debunking of the VA survey and the comments of the VA Secretary who stated that the survey was meaningless and that the VA is using hydroxychloroquine successfully in terms of diminishing the effects of the disease on younger patients in the early stages of infection.
     
  18. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    At the same time the WHO and Dr. Fauci was playing it down, he's supposed to listen to the experts, right?

    A lie, he called the Democratic criticism a hoax.
     
  19. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,582
    Likes Received:
    52,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's so easy to access information, that those that want it, have it. Their credibility is hip deep in the mud. Wait until Durham gets done with Brennan. These same folks have trafficked so deeply into years long campaigns of lies, that it's pretty clear that pretty much everything they say may be safely ignored.

    And Trump doesn't sweat this stuff. These fights empower him. Soundly kicking the lying asses of the lying press relaxes him.
     
    AFM likes this.
  20. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113

    98% success rate with the combination. Sometimes things obviously work and this does.
     
    AFM likes this.
  21. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,992
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Food and Drug Administration on Friday cautioned against prescribing hydroxychloroquine to COVID-19 patients outside of hospital settings or clinical trials. The drug, an antimalarial, was repeatedly touted by President Donald Trump as a possible treatment for the coronavirus.

    "The FDA is aware of reports of serious heart rhythm problems in patients with COVID-19 treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with azithromycin," the FDA wrote on its website.
    https://news.yahoo.com/fda-not-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19-135958144.html

    It is not recommended.
    Same as disinfectants, injected.
     
  22. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,992
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Dangerous is more the problem with the orange man.
    FDA warns against using hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus
    And now he thinks injecting disinfectants may be a cure.

     
  23. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,582
    Likes Received:
    52,135
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2020
  24. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can lead a donkey to water ....,,
     
    Hoosier8 likes this.
  25. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,674
    Likes Received:
    8,856
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then if you and your loved ones become infected refuse to take hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and zinc.
     

Share This Page