Draft -- Would you go?

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  1. dnsmith

    dnsmith New Member

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    I would hope so. An E-4 in a combat zone is much more needed and likely with his military training much more skilled in his craft. His base pay is $2215 per month and he receives his meals and lodging. Of course in a combat zone the meals may be MREs and his lodging a cot in a tent. I believe he deserves more. But what the hey, I spent 27 years in the military and would personally help handcuff a draft dodger to the bumper of my car to take him to his physical. Poor guy may not pass the physical.
     
  2. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    he does get more, combat pay and no taxes.

    My point is that we don't really use human cannon fodder like we used to, today's soldier has the skill and firepower of 10 draftees. In WWII and Vietnam, the US still had the 'we have more bodies than you' mentality.
     
  3. PTPLauthor

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    If I were draft-eligible and we were in a war, I would have volunteered before being drafted. I attempted to enlist in the Air Force soon after high school, but was deemed ineligible because of the medical issues.
     
  4. Herkdriver

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    If they'd take me, I'd go.
    I doubt I could pass the physical fitness standards at this point however, plus I have hearing loss.
     
  5. Curmudgeon

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    It wasn't just Bill Clinton. Don't forget Dick "I had more important things to do" Cheyney, Ted "(*)(*)(*)(*) my pants during induction physical" Nugent, Rush "anal Cyst" Limbaugh, Trent "avoid the draft" Lott, Mitt "dodged the draft by being a Mormon Missionary in France" Romney,Tom "avoided the Draft" "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
    Delay, Dick "hid out in grad school" Armey, John "received 7 deferments to teach Business at S.W. Missouri St." Ashcroft.

    Note: I was drafted in 1972, my number was 23. I was declared 4F due to being determined legally blind in my left eye by U.S. Army ophthalmologist's.
     
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  6. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Let me put it this way:

    Unless some kind of Jihadist super power suddenly popped up and was invading the world, I want no part of whatever the US Military is doing. Assuming I was American (which I'm not), I'd end up Canadian anyway in this situation, so to speak.
     
  7. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    If such a superpower did 'invade' the world, Canadians would quickly appreciate having a US military to once again save their bacon
     
  8. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    When has the US Military ever had to save us?
     
  9. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    having Japanese, German, or Soviet hegemony would not have been helpful if not a direct threat. If push ever comes to shove over the mineral claims at the north pole, Canada would back down from the Russians were it not for your allies.
     
  10. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    You were speaking in a military sense, not political, so this is redundant.

    I know of no battle where Canada had to be saved by the United States, 1. because we always end up on the winning side; 2. because no one's ever tried to invade us, except you.
     
  11. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member Past Donor

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    1. You ended up on the winning side when we were on your side, it is entirely possible that would not have been true in 1945 and even if so then you would have had to stare down the Soviet Union with out us, not likely 2. we never tried to invade you when you were independent from Britain.
     
  12. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Ok...but we were never under any threat. You didn't save us. You saved Western Europe, sure, but we were just fine.
     
  13. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably, since I'm still inactive reserve. I made an oath for 8, and I'll go if called during those 8. I'm draft exempt as of August 2016.
     
  14. Strasser

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    Because of the U.S. Navy, not your own. Hiding behind the U.S. as usual.
     
  15. little voice

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    very good post
     
  16. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    We had the 3rd largest Navy in WW2. Nice try though.
     
  17. Bluespade

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    No. I wouldn't be drafted anyway, I've already done eight years, so I'm exempt from a IRR call up. Since there hasn't been a justified war in over sixty years, I would advice others to avoid being called up.

    But the fact is unless something major breaks out, I doubt we'll ever see a draft anyway.
     
  18. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Because your OP was lacking in regard to details most posters expanded on the question. That's part of the trials and tribulations inherent in presenting an opening post for a thread.
     
  19. Strasser

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    Far behind the U.S.'s Navy in size and quality. Saddam Hussein had the fourth largest military at the time we destroyed it; so much for comparisons like '2nd' and '3rd' and the like. Your little coast guard wasn't even a match for the Japanese Navy.
     
  20. Bluespade

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    Actually, there was a coalition that helped destroy Saddam's army. The American military did the bulk of the fighting.
     
  21. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Uh, we never fought the Japanese navy. All our ships were in the Atlantic.

    You took the Pacific, we took Atlantic convoy duty and the Brits took the Atlantic as a whole, though your navy is big enough that you could send ships there too.

    Military tech was more even in the 1940s than it is now, which is why neither side defeated each other in any timely manner. Again, nice try but you're not getting away with the "America saves the world" crap.
     
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    Nope. I"m too old. But I still have my draft card from when I was in high school. I didn't burn it like the rest of my classmates did. Made getting into bars a snap since i didn't get my drivers license until i was 19.
     
  23. Strasser

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    that's because your '3rd largest Navy' wasn't that big, not to mention having few major combat vessels.

    Canadians didn't manage to sink many German subs or ships.

    America did save the world; we supplied every ally, including the Soviets, so they could stay in the war, on top of building our own forces, invading Africa, Japan, and Italy as well as Normandy. We understand your jealousy.

    http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/1223-canadian-navy-of-ww2/

     
  24. 3link

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    Even if I disagreed with the war, it's better to go to the middle east and risk your life than be condemned to live in Canada for the rest of your days.
     
  25. Frank Grimes

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    I appreciate Canadian contributions, but the western world does not survive without the USA. Hitler-Hirohito, or Stalin- the Commonwealth was just too weak to stand up to that. It is quite possible Canada might have been left alone, but it would have been a much less friendly world for you to live in.

    You also would not survive the mass immigration of tens of millions of Mexicans.
     

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