Effective Ukrainian Partisan Attacks on Russian Forces

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats utter made up nonsense .. crying out to the sky .. that folks who give you information from US news media you can't handle are cheerleading Nazi's .. What a goofy joke mate .. You are the one who is Cheerleading the teen boys into the meat grinder .. I want no part of that filth you are offering .. so keep it to youself .. don't be tarring me with your ideology of death and delusion.

    You were given a Reuters article detailing the Neo Nazi - white supremists .. others have given you other reports .. you then turn around and cry "Russia Russia Russia " "Nazi Nazi .. foaming at the mouth like in some irrational deluted state .. speawing out false accusations and general fallacious nonsense. desperately trying to demonize the messenger..

    Need to up your game mate .. figure out what an argument looks like.
     
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    I did not lie about you ? What is this lie ... and what are these "Facts" that I don't know. You were given a Reuters article which discusses the AZOV extremists .. stating how the Gov't lets them operate with impunity .. while they persecute the Russian Separatists.

    What about these facts do I not know ? and who is the liar in this equation .. who didn't know the facts detailed in the Reuters article and is now screaming out that it is others who do not know the facts. Who is the deceiver and deflector in this equation. No me .. I will tell you that much.

    Now tell is this lie that you are accusing me of .. and what a pathetic joke of an argument btw.. Ad Hom and Strawman fallacy up the yang.
     
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    What "dishonest generalization" and who is the delusional one here ? Delusional are those folks who think there is no censorship in the west .. completely oblivious to what is going on around them .. is that not delusional mate :)

    "Every country has extremists" you cry ? as if that changes the fact that the Azov Nazi's are extremists ? is that not delusional ..

    "Teen boys - Made up nonsense" - "Delusional" you cry? but the article interviews those teen boys .. so clearly you are the delusional one .. the one spewing made up nonsense ... I didn't make up anything ... the article says what it says .. what is "delusional" is blaming me for what the article says - shooting the messenger because you don't like the message.

    Who is the delusional one here .. ?
     
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    Partisans blow up key railway used by Putin’s forces

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    Mon, March 13, 2023 at 10:44 AM CDT·3 min read


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    A burning house in Kherson

    Ukrainian partisans damaged a stretch of railway in occupied Kherson in a guerrilla attack on Russian logistics.

    The Atesh movement claimed responsibility for the explosive strike, which they said would hinder the supply of Russian troops in the southern Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions.

    “We work around the clock for the destruction of the occupying forces and the liberation of Ukraine,” the group said on the Telegram messaging app.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/partisans-blow-key-railway-used-154447061.html
     
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    It is nice to see partisans fighting for the liberation of their country from the fascist Russian invaders.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Ukrainian partisans damaged a railway track in occupied Kherson Oblast on March 11. The Ukrainian Resistance Center stated on March 12 that the Ukrainian and Tatar partisan group “Atesh” destroyed a railway track between Abrykovisvka and Radensk, Kherson Oblast, in an effort to disrupt Russian ground logistics supply chains.[82] Ukrainian Southern Operational Command Spokesperson Nataliya Humenyuk stated on March 13 that the resistance movement continues to help Ukrainian forces keep Russian supply lines under control.[83]
     
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    NAZIs are leftists. The Right is a myth started by Stalinists.
     
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    Thinking that NAZIS are leftists is a myth that a minority of people push forth. That false thinking is fostered by is those who think that authoritarian regimes are only left wing. Facts prove that thinking is very wrong. Authoritarianism is a sickness of both the far right and the far left. Think about it.
    Examples Franco of Spain was an extreme right wing monarchist supported by Hitler and Mussolini obviously extreme right wingers supported Franco. Stalin who is obviously the extreme of the extreme left opposed Franco “Republicans “ government who were called “Rojos” or reds due to their left pointing ideology and strong communist faction support were supported by Stalin (USSR). See Hitler an obvious extreme right winger supported Franco. I already stated that Stalin the obviously communist and by definition extreme left wing supported the so called “republicans” as they called themselves.

    Look up Franco , Spanish Civil War , and Hitler and Soviet Stalin intervention if you do not believe me.

    Here is what I observed on this board and other political debate venues and talking heads. Conservatives and people who think they are ideological conservatives obviously hate the left wing, liberals, democrats therefore try to equate liberalism with NAZISM. The fatal flaw in this attempt to smear the left and democrats is that NAZIS/Hitler were not liberal or democratic.

    The joke is on the so called conservatives because the extreme left wing and a portion of standard left wing (liberals) are self destructing.
    Therefore there is no need to falsely claim that they liberals are NAZIS or that NAZIS are liberals.
     
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    There is no persecution of pro Russian separatists. Pro Russian terrorists have and are committing war crimes and genocide in Ukraine. Azov is defending Ukraine and Ukrainians from Russian and pro Russians terrorists and Russian Wagnerites who are also literally criminals and mjderes and pedophiles and ————-s.
     
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    Don't know what is happening on the ground as we speak .. and neither do you .. but, it is a fact that there was plenty of pursecution of Pro Russian Separatists by the Azov Nazi's prior to the "special operation" .. your claim that there was none merely demonstrating that you have no knowledge of what you speak.
     
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    Who is the delusional one ... the information comes from a BBC link interviewing Ukrainian teenagers headed for the front with little training .. not from me ... so the one engaging in "Utter made up nonsense" - is you projecting your failings onto others.

    Same is true about your cry about"dishonest generalization" .. once again putting your failings on display. It is not some big secret that the Azov Nazi's .. are Nazi's .. .. not just some ragged band of white supremicists.. which would be bad enough in of itself .but regardless .. Don't cry found to me because of what the US congress has declared .. Not my fault that your perspective if wrong and flawed .. Don't blame me - the messenger- for explaining what the facts are.

    Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...ersial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis/
    Sup Durandal .. Don't blame me for your support of neo Nazi's .. Not my fault you have been cheerleading these Ukrainian Teenage boys into the meat grinder .. following the backslap Pudd Pull around and adopting the "Orc Orc Orc" cheer .. desperate to dehumanize the pro Russian separatists as less than human .. in similar fashion as Adolf did to the Jew.

    Don't be trying to tar me with that filth .. can keep that all to yourself .. I'm just the messenger.
     
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    Who is the delusional one ... the information comes from a BBC link interviewing Ukrainian teenagers headed for the front with little training .. not from me ... so the one engaging in "Utter made up nonsense" - is you projecting your failings onto others.

    Same is true about your cry about"dishonest generalization" .. once again putting your failings on display. It is not some big secret that the Azov Nazi's .. are Nazi's .. .. not just some ragged band of white supremicists.. which would be bad enough in of itself .but regardless .. Don't cry found to me because of what the US congress has declared .. Not my fault that your perspective if wrong and flawed .. Don't blame me - the messenger- for explaining what the facts are.

    Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...ersial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis/


    Sup Durandal .. Don't blame me for your support of neo Nazi's .. Not my fault you have been cheerleading these Ukrainian Teenage boys into the meat grinder .. following the backslap Pudd Pull around and adopting the "Orc Orc Orc" cheer .. desperate to dehumanize the pro Russian separatists as less than human .. in similar fashion as Adolf did to the Jew.

    Don't be trying to tar me with that filth .. can keep that all to yourself .. I'm just the messenger.

    Sup Durandal ... is that all you can muster in response to your Crucified Position ..

    Not my fault you have been cheerleading Ukrainian Teenage boys into the meatgrinder with Azov Nazi Tropes. You should be thanking me for making you aware of these failings .. of which you were unaware .. having been sucked in by the propaganda .. which you should also thank me for bringing to your attention .. cause you were unaware of that as well.
     
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    Tell it to Bill "The top 4 rulers in Ukie land, including zelensky, are Jews" Carson.
     
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    Why would I tell it to Bill .. he is not the one running around engaging in Azov Nazi Tropes-- cheerleading teenage Ukrainian boys into the meat grinder .. that would be YOU Durandal .. and it makes no difference whether one is demonizing Jews .. or some other group crying "Orc Orc Orc" ... its all the same white supremicist filth

    Do you not understand that Durandal .. the KKK stringing up the black man .. same kind of thinking as Adolf Stringing up the Jew .. .. is why we call them "Neo Nazi" .. cause the chosen victim is one other than the Jew.

    Did you seriousy not understand this Durandal ? .. good thing I came along to help extract some of those poison lizards .. you drank down the propaganda hard .. gonna take some doing to do this cleanse.
     
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    Actually, you and Jew-obsessed Bill are the ones obsessed with a handful of right-wingers in Ukraine and insisting that Ukraine's Jewish president is a NAZI because of them.

    I didn't even know Ukraine had so many Jews in power. I wonder why Bill pays so much attention to such things?

    Maybe it's because he's a fan of this guy?

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    I agree but, the freedom fighters in Palesting need more arms and supplies to fight off the Terrorist invaders. kind of like David vs Goliath .. cept David don't have no sling nor any rocks - need to get these lads some proper weapons with which to fight back.

    quite the hypocritical joke aye mate :)
     
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    Your the one obsessed with Jews .. I never mentioned them . but now you are telling falsehoods about my good nature .. in some desperate attempt to deflect from the fact that you have been Clearleading the Azov Neo Nazi's .. singing the same songs (tropes) in an attempt to dehumanize "Orc Orc Orc" .. cheering the teenage Ukrainian lads into the meat grinder .. and then pretending that there are no Ukrainian teens on the front line .. in what can only be assumed to be disingenuous oblivion .. as you have been shown news articles detainling such .. and why would you think 19 year olds would not be fighting for their country in Ukraine.

    I don't believe someone can be that unaware of the reality of war .. Did you think Ukraine enacted some edict forbidding teens to fight .. did you seriously expect people to believe you were this unaware ..

    Curious what causes folks to engage in this disingenuous oblivion .. .. what is the point .. what to be gained at end of day .. making some poster believe what about you ? Where is the upside .. what did you wish the reader to get about you from this behavior ?
     
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    You're* obsessed with defending the naZi fascist invasion of Ukraine by Muscovy, and you are determined to twist, ignore the facts and make up silly lies to do so.
     
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    Thats completely false but worth repeating in part .. as is a description of you

    "You're* obsessed with defending the naZi fascist and you are determined to twist, ignore the facts and make up silly lies to do so."

    I told you I hate Putin .. but your salatious false accusation of my defense of Nazi facist does not change the fact that it has been you who has been cheerleading the teen ukrainian lads into the meat grinder .. cheered on on by the White Supremist "Neo Nazi" ideological Trope "Orc Orc Orc"

    Sup D ? all out of material .. all you can do is name-call and make false accusations ? Do you deny doing the "Orc Chant" Durandal .. Do you deny participating in the backslap pudd pull . cheerleading those teenage Ukrainian teens into the meatgrinder ?? Nothing to say other than deflection, fallacy and name-calling.

    Who is the defender of the Nazi fascist Durandal ... can we have another "Orc Orc Orc" cheer from your armchair for those teenage Ukrainian lads into the meatgrinder .. the ones you pretend do not exist. Does that make it better D ? .. just pretend it all away .. La La La La-la .. Tip toe .. through the tulips with Tiny Tim ?
     
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    Your arguments just don't make sense at all. All Ukraine is doing is defending itself against an invading military force, but you sit there and repeat lies about alleged Nazis in Ukraine and about what the term "orc" is used for by the Ukrainians. Everything you post is regurgitated Kremlin propaganda, so when you claim to hate Putin, it doesn't really ring true at all. It seems you hate Ukraine and you hate western countries and all of their respective leaders, and you obviously support this invasion by Muscovy.
     
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    Let me demonstrate that it is you not I who does not know of what you speak.
    Azov as an organization are not NAZIS that is an untruth created by Russia and anti Ukrainian elements. There could be a small minute number who lean that way but that does not define the organization.

    There is no “special operation” in Ukraine. It is an untruth created by Putin. There is an invasion of Ukraine by Russia.
    Russian troops ( invaders) committed and still commit war crimes in Ukraine. Does that mean that 100% of the Russian people commit war crimes?
     
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    LMAO :applause:quite comedic, thanks for the laugh

    https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/ seems we know who the antisemite is....'alleged' he says

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    Just say no to nazis
     
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    Should be easy enough to say no to all three or four of them.
     
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    I do say no to naZis, my Jew-hating friend.
     
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