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English 101 for anti 2nd amendment advocates and those who don’t think it’s absolute

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Joe knows, Dec 17, 2022.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Still arguing the 2nd Amendment protects the right to own and use nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, eh?
     
    TOG 6, Dec 21, 2022
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    As you know, the 2nd Amendment does not protect every possible use of a firearm.
     
    TOG 6, Dec 21, 2022
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    The second amendment allows for the right to bear arms. It says nothing about its uses however it is always legal to bear arms no matter the scenario
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    Exactly!
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Heller got it wrong. No government has the right to infringe on arms. Wether it’s commonly used or not, it’s still an arm and is protected from infringement. Heller got some right but they got some wrong to.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    They are not for those who believe in the second. It’s our right wether they like it or not
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    It is not legal to use a firearm in a bank robbery, and the 2nd does not protect you if you do so.
     
    TOG 6, Dec 21, 2022
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    It’s not legal to rob a bank and nothing in the constitution permits it. Good grief you really think we think it’s legal to rob a bank? It’s legal to bear in a bank unless otherwise stated by the bank right? You can bear arms period and it is protected. A carry concealed can carry in a bank and it’s legal so long as the bank permits it. Robing a bank using your finger to simulate a gun isn’t legal because you’re robbing a bank lmao.
     
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  9. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Scalia knew that if he said all gun regulations (especially at the state level or the GCA of 68's ban on felons owning guns) were unconstitutional, the Heller decision would have gone against gun owners because an erratic Justice Kennedy was wavering
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2022
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    So your statement:
    ...it is always legal to bear arms no matter the scenario...
    Is false.
    Thank you
     
    TOG 6, Dec 21, 2022
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    No it’s not false, because it’s never legal to rob a bank which I did not claim it ever was
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    I don’t care the logic. It was an unconstitutional ruling
     
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    You said:
    ...it is always legal to bear arms no matter the scenario...
    Clearly, it is not.
     
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    Clearly it is. I never claimed robbing a bank is legal did I. Bearing arms in a bank is legal.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    You stated:
    The second amendment allows for the right to bear arms. It says nothing about its uses.
    "Bearing arms", as we see,does not include every conceivable use of or for a firearm.
    And so, the 2nd --does- say something about its uses.
     
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    Bearing arms is not a “use”… what is so hard to understand here. We can bear arms and any restriction on that right is unconstitutional period
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    Provide an example of bearing arms that does not involve the use, or intent to use, of that arm.

    You asked:
    The second amendment mentions common uses?
    Yes. Those that fall under "bearing arms".
     
    TOG 6, Dec 21, 2022
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    and unless the supreme court agrees with you, that and a quarter will get you a cop of bad coffee
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2022
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    Free men don’t live by permissions
     
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    Keep and Bearing arms is having on your person and the ability to own. Does not mean any actions
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    free men who disobey the highest court in the land tend not to stay free
     
    Turtledude, Dec 21, 2022
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    How else can you challenge something’s unconstitutionality? The Supreme Court can not change the constitution they do not have that power. If they ruled that a ar-15 confiscation was constitutional I still would not turn in my guns. They would have to kill me to get them.
     
    Joe knows, Dec 21, 2022
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    You violate the law and you won't be a free man.
     
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    Do you think the feds would hesitate to do so?
     
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    Wouldn’t doubt it. If they thought January 6th was bad just wait till they try and take peoples firearms
     
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