English rioters may lose gov. benefits

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  1. diligent

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    What an excellent idea. There should be more of it! But maybe the Government should also take a hard long look at their parents
     
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    We have a shorter word: liberals.
     
  3. Rexxon

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    All good points, And I agree that people that commit crimes should be punished. But how much worse could the prisons get? Inmates already don't get much more that a bed, meals. A couple small goodies to keep them from causing even more trouble (such as tv and reading materials). And still, Violence in prison is prevalent, Thus the horror stories many have read and heard about, Or experienced for themselves.

    What changes would you make to prisons to cause the fear needed to keep people out of them? Would those changes be humane and legal?

    I already fear prison enough to where I would rather work to maintain my lifestyle than steal. But If I lost my job, and were starving and cold? Then prison becomes a more viable alternative.

    Leading by fear will get what you want, I don't argue that, But it will also result in a quicker end. It invokes a persons flight or fight reflexes. And when enough people pick 'fight', Bloodshed ensues.

    We all have to compromise to ensure a good future for everyone. People that don't want to work at all need to realize that they are not going to be supported and helped unless they contribute. The poor janitor needs to realize that if he doesn't provide more, He may not be able to receive much more than the bare minimum needed to live. And the rich CEO tycoon needs to realize that he needs to pay his employees more, Or live with the risk that the sheer number of poor people resorting to what the British people did.

    Thank you for your time.
     
  4. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right. More dead people in the streets, including those shot accidentally by those who have bad aim.
     
  5. PatrickT

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    This is almost as strong as the French president saying the thugs who burned cars should lose their drivers licenses. I'll believe it when I see it.

    I suspect what I'll see first is the families of the three men run down by the car being forced to pay for damages to the car those men intentionally damaged. Now, that really wouldn't surprise me.

    Have the British forgotten how to say, "That's enough."
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    They plan to kick them out of their public housing homes. I don't think that's the right idea. Some little brat could go out rioting and he and his mother could be kicked out of their home. Its not always the parents fault.

    A harsh punishment is needed, but punish the rioters, not their families.
     
  7. Comet

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    I agree. The first eviction is of a family who's 18 year old son was one of the looters. But his mother and an 8 year old child are also being kicked out on to the street. Why should they have to suffer? They should just send this yob to jail and let his family stay in their home.
     
  8. CanadianEye

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    Perhaps you haven't been following what has been happening Mak. The've discovered a way to implement fear into the animals, via terrified parents, that might actually produce the right results, and, save some money.

    The liberal mantra of "Awwww, but that's not fair" might not actually work this time to stall out an intelligent attempt at a solution.
     
  9. Shangrila

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    In that case, we could suggest the 18 year old, who surely had his values instilled by his mother, he get up at 5 am to clean up the mess he and his chumps created.
    Work it off, look at and clean up the chaos. Why should someone else be paid to do it.
    He's got nothing better to do.
     
  10. Comet

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    Sounds good to me.
     
  11. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So in an effort to prevent these people from terrorizing my pocket and robbing me blind with the accomplice that is government, I should willingly hand over my money?

    And even if I do, and these people don't feel like they have enough of it, they should be able to burn down my business while still demanding i give them money.

    Really?
     
  12. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we MUST give them our money, so they don't rob us.

    This is called extortion. Ill just buy a gun.
     
  13. gamewell45

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    Don't you think that its a knee-jerk reaction?? Doesn't it make more sense to work with them and help them to find a viable job. That way everyone wins and you once again have a working member of society.

    You ever fire a gun before? Suppose you buy a gun and fire at a perpetrator, miss, hit and kill an innocent bystander?? You ever think about that? Can you live with yourself if you kill someone? Especially an innocent bystander?? Think about it.
     
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