Evolution is a joke pt V

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  1. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    .... You're a bloody idiot, you know that? You can't even backup your own conspiracy claims, but you continually move the goalposts to avoid being wrong.

    Did you or did you not say that there is NOT ONE University outside of the West that taught evolution? Yes or no. Unless you consider every single one of those countries as "Western" (They aren't), then you are wrong.
     
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    At least the rest of us know that gravity has nothing to do with the size of an object, but rather it's mass.

    A beach ball is larger than a bowling ball, but has much less mass.

    No experimentation? LOL.

    I think you just need to walk away from talking about all science in general, not just evolution.
     
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    Um, are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded? How does teaching Western philosophy ALONG with Eastern Philosophy suddenly make a school "Western"?
     
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    Yes I did... and ALSO said that didn't have WESTERN INFLUENCE - Exactly what I said about Evolutionary Biologist... idiot...

    Go back and read...
     
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    Yep – because you didn’t read not a one of them and see what they were saying “WHY”. As I told you – you never read anything nor pay attention – you just Google, hence why you have so many epic FAIL’s and then… of course

    THE FAIL!!!

    In any of those did it talk at all about common descent? Do you think that maybe there might be two types of evolution when describing evolution… maybe?

    It’s totally random and I could care less what PBS or whatever states… It’s random – you cannot guess or prove with math or science what something is going to evolve into! That is the most retarded statement ever put out there that you religious nut jobs of evolution believe!!!

    Just because someone TOLD you that it’s not random you just jump on board!!! How is evolution not random?

    I’ll explain this so even YOU GRASPING can understand it. I want you do to go to Vegas and put on the Animal Planet then when the lions start chasing whatever – you pick out what it’s going to eat beforehand since it’s not random. Is it the child from the strongest male and female? The oldest one? The sickest one? Or one unfortunate one that just happened to trip in a pot hole? But, of course – you don’t think it’s random so you’ll make a KILLING in Vegas huh?!?!

    Why do they tell you it’s not random? Because of the base argument against religion. As I told my friend the other day when you put down his Dawkin’s book, religion is not nor should not be discussed in any way with anything science. One could put an argument for religion on every theory or hypothesis or law that there is – but we don’t do that because it’s retarded… Faith if Faith and that is what you have with evolution. That is why you can put them both on the same plane – that is why they lie to you and you believe them.

    If evolution is not random – please tell us one lifeform on this planet and “predict” what is going to be it’s next major evolutionary jump and the cause of this jump from one species to another.

    Now let’s look at this Grasping… You said that evolution is how many genes are spread over a population… Where did natural selection and mutation come in? That’s not genes spread over a population? Are you saying that there is more than just how frequent a gene sequence is over a population is evolution? Is it now switching yet one more time? Because we can take a photo of all life today and that snapshot we can say what the gene frequency is over a population. Snapshot done… we get the results of gene sequences of how common blond hair is – short antennae – large leaves and so forth. There – we have concluded the frequency of alleles within a population. Now… how does that explain how the leaves turned into fingers?
     
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    So basically I could take ANY school, and hell, even if it has a professor from the States, then it is influenced by the West? What if that country has gotten economic aid at one point? Must be influenced by the West. Oh (*)(*)(*)(*), they teach Western philosophy? MUST BE A WESTERN SCHOOL! You're arguing a debate where there is only one correct answers, yours. Sorry, but you were wrong, there are schools outside of the West that teach evolution. And no, doing a search for the terms "Western influence" in posts by you, you have only used those terms once: now.
     
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    Interesting you said that...

    Which has a LARGER mass genius?

    Okay... :)
     
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    Look retardation of retards - it makes the school whatever that school is and it teaches western philosophies...

    Just accept your 62 FAIL's and let's move on..
     
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    You obviously have no "grasping" clue on how many schools there are in the world... Don't you find it kinda weird how the only ones that have evolutionary course work are influenced by the west?

    Here is you :ignore: and I am truth and questions to your religion....
     
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    Two types of evolution? You're just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up, now. Sorry that you didn't agree with my definition of evolution because you thought it was genetic drift. It obviously isn't genetic drift as those universities clearly define evolution the same way I do. Do they refer to it as genetic drift like you continually say it is? Nope.

    LOL! Oh, it's random because you say so? What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke. By the way, being able to prove with math what something is going to evolve into doesn't make evolution random. Please explain how a process where beneficial traits are selected for is random.

    Can you not read the words from the website? The only randomness in evolution is from genetic variation brought on by mutations. Natural selection, however, is not random.

    Once again, argument from ignorance. I can't see evolution not being random, therefore it must be random even though the scientists who study it disagree completely and have provided an explanation for it!

    Nope, sorry, what we have is evidence. As clearly stated, you don't accept it as evidence. Fine, but you're wrong and its laughable to say you're right when people that actually do this (*)(*)(*)(*) for a living are in almost unanimous agreement. If you disagree with evolution, go to school and get a degree in biological field and then present a paper for peer review. Otherwise, randomly screaming "FAIL" and "You're wrong because I say so!" isn't exactly a winning argument.

    We don't have control over nature, so it is simply impossible to "guess" what animal is going to come next. Artificially, we CAN control evolution and it becomes apparently clear that it IS NOT random. Was it random that we selected bananas to be tastier and larger? Was it random that we selected dogs for certain traits? No, it simply isn't. Why? Because we have control over it. Natural selection has control over evolution, so it is simply not a random process.

    Mutations created the genes, natural selection selected which genes were beneficial.

    Once again, another idiotic strawman argument. At no point in our evolutionary history did we evolve from plants. Plants are our relatives, but they aren't our "parents" or "grandparents", which is why they are in a different (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Kingdom.
     
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    No, I really don't find it strange that a school received funding from the West 100 years ago. I don't find it strange that somebody from the West would establish a school in the East. I don't find it strange that a school would split its philosophical work into Western and Eastern philosophy. Are these schools being forced to teach evolution? Do you have any evidence of that claim?
     
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    And it also teaches Eastern philosophy. So... uh, your logic is kind of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded. Is my school an "Eastern school" because it offers classes that deal with Eastern philosophy and religion?
     
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    Sorry, this should say "By the way, not being able to prove with math what something is going to involve into doesn't make evolution random."
     
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    WHAT?!?! You have to be joking Grasping....

    Am I making things up? If someone told me that there is different theories of evolution, I would know what they were talking about since I have studied evolution. If you haven't studied evolution - you wouldn't have a clue and say stupid stuff kinda like what you posted above.

    Google it Grasping...


    Because you have no clue if the traits are beneficial... Let me show you how retarded your statement is. Life existed on this planet and everything evolved to what it was - then a major extinction happened. Did everything LIVE or did life go extinct? I think it's a major extinction because (*)(*)(*)(*) died genius! Question - did that life that died evolve? Or did it just appear on the planet the way it did - like it was beamed down from Capt. Kirk's Starship?!?!

    FAIL 63...

    Well, even though some will argue about Natural Selection (I will save that for someone who knows what the (*)(*)(*)(*) they are talking about) you just stated the foundation of evolution is random... genetic variation brought about by mutation is the larger, probably the most significant part of evolution, but of course I can't expect you to know that.

    Thus, evolution is random...

    Grasping - I just told you why it's not fixed... Evolution is not fixed. You know if it's not random then it's fixed! You have no clue what will evolve - or what will not evolve. Science does not know what genes will "stick" and which ones will not...

    This is an outlandish statement by science because it cannot be falsified. Thus, it should be thrown out!!! Readers... How can we predict evolution? We would need something to evolve into something else.... Has this ever happened? Nope... Thus, science is making a statement that has never been witnessed nor tested, and cannot be falsified. If something cannot be false, then it is a fairytale like Gremlims steal my left socks!

    And Grasping if you think you can falsify evolution predicting what life is going to evolve into - go right ahead...


    Evolution is Random....

    Evolution is Random... How? Because of what you just stated... and please explain how we control evolution? The dog thing is interbreeding - not evolution genius... That's about as retarded as your statement about common descent is your grandfather...

    FAIL 64

    Mutations are random...

    Doesn't matter what kingdom or anything brilliant one. Anything can randomly change and mutate over time into something else - you obviously can tell us what the leaves are going to evolve into. So, if not fingers then what? It's not random - what are the leaves going to evolve into Grasping?

    And just to let you know - you have no clue what we evolved from and it sure as hell could have been plants...
     
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    If they want to continue getting money they do...
     
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    Nope - but I knew your small mind with think that!! Now look at your FAIL number 65!

    There is no classification because of what they teach genius... It has to do with what they teach...
     
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    Well, if you don't have math then per science you MUST have experimentation...

    Well? Where is your non-random proving experimentation of evolution into common descent...
     
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    Anybody else from the Peanut Gallery want to jump on board Grasping FAIL train?
     
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    Question:

    How does Natural Selection "chose" anyway Grasping? Because I am wondering how life goes extinct if it's already fixed... (not random)...
     
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    It is pretty simple...If an organisms genes allow him to adapt to a cooler climate and it gets cooler...nature "selects" him. If not...he dies off.

    If an organisms genes allow him to resist a particular bacteria...and this bacteria causes problems... nature "selects" him to survive..If not...he dies.


    Nature is a cruel b*#ch. Only the fit survive as a species.
     
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    What?! Do you have ANY evidence that universities in these countries consistently receive Western funding on the condition that they teach evolution?

    Sorry, but your logic is faulty. A "Nope" answer isn't going to cover THAT fail.


    Uh huh, and one school teaches both Western and Eastern philosophies, but somehow that makes it solely a Western school? You still haven't answered me to where you specified the condition about "Western influences" other than your recent post. Oh, right, it doesn't exist and you are just trying to move the goalpost.


    Yep.

    I'm not going to keep doing this, I'm actually putting you on ignore because you are a bloody mouth-breather that has no idea what he's talking about. If you're going to just sit here and troll then there's no point. You know that examples of experiments have been provided for you already. But, maybe you should first understand the definition of evolution first. Cheers.
     
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    I just told you, the bowling ball.

    Though "larger" is not really the most appropriate word to use in your question as it generally refers to size, and as I said, gravity has nothing to do with size.

    An object with greater mass will exert more of a gravitational pull than an object of lesser mass, even if the less massive object is many times larger than the more massive object.

    I think you should look up the definition of "mass", then immediately step away from all things science.
     
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    Do you think this is random? What life survives and what doesn't...
     
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    Exclusively for evolution? Nope...


    Great "non"-answer...


    Western philosophies is evolution is it not? IF it is Western - it will be taught... Kinda plain and simple one might think...


    But, for the past threads you have failed to show anything dealing with common descent...


    That's laughable... Straight laughable...

    Those reading - is it not typical? Does Grasping not sound like a religious nutcase who knows nothing about his/her own Bible? His/her own religion? His/her own beliefs? Science is based on math and experimentation. Have any of you reading seen ANY post with either? Where is the science behind the science of evolution?
     
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    Since this is not a quiz on gravity I can say larger... one can assume what I meant. If you are unable to - then that's on you - not me...
     
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