Experiment to prove the doulbe standard when it comes to Racism

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TRFjr, Jun 22, 2015.

  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,992
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, you can claim that. You can also state your case to the moderators and maybe you'll get it uncensored. You haven't done it yet.
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Jews were tossed into ovens, in nazi Germany, and hymie is an anti jewish slur.
     
  3. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's talking about me. My original quote didn't include the dragging behind cars though. For me, the fact that even he knows what the censored word references without me saying it just strengthens the case against his position.
     
  4. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The k-word is just denoting the way Jews signed their documents. Heck, I didn't even know about this word until a year ago. When I think of this word, I don't think ovens. I think Donald Sterling or some other prominent Jewish person. Nothing denigrating. But if I heard someone calling a Jew, for example, "biscuit," then I would know exactly what they're referencing and be stunned by it.
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,149
    Likes Received:
    19,992
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He was so emotional in his responses, he was all over the place.
    It was like watching a pin ball game bouncing all over.
     
  6. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't see any black slaves or segregation. So it went away.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/23/dhs-employees-website-we-are-going-have-kill-lot-w/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8xytYhFLE
    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/study-more-whites-killed-by-police-than-blacks

    http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/27/1265498/-The-slaves-that-time-forgot

    Shall I find pictures of the DC sniper for you? He killed 16... does that make him better than the guy who shot 9?
    ONE crazy (*)(*)(*)(*)head racist goes postal and suddenly its racism from all whites.. If I show you a crazy (*)(*)(*)(*)head racist who happens to be black and who harms or advocates harming whites will you say that all blacks need to address their racism?
     
  7. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think it should be either. If only people would stop using it in that context and the memories of people who had had it used on them in that context could somehow be erased. I'd also like to come home tonight and find my fiance had picked up a nubile and attractive female to have a one time 3 way with. What's your point?

    So you don't think calling someone a racial slur might lead to a physical altercation? I'm trying to illustrate a point: You'll argue with me here about it all day but you won't go up to a person who might actually be offended and able to do something about it, call them a racial slur and then explain to them why they shouldn't be offended. I'm not offended by any of these words, even gaijin which means white foreign DEVIL (ie you are not human you are a literal demon from the underworld) or hillbilly or redneck or cracker or peckerwood. If you want to argue with someone who is offended by these words that they should not be offended I encourage you to take your reasoned debate to the streets. I don't think you'll do that, but hey it is what I encourage you to do if you're so in a twist about it. I've been on this thread simply to point out that it is a double standard to censor (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) but not **** or mick or wop or dago ad nausem.
    The only one who looks ridculous is the guy who thinks paki aint a racial slur and won't incite a fairly violent reaction in those its aimed at. But don't take my word for it: Go try it yourself.

    Hey don't tell me that, I'm not pakistani. It don't bother me hoss. It bothers pakistanis though. Even when the word used is not paki and its not referring to humans. http://www.desiblitz.com/content/pakisaurus-trends-for-jurassic-world-boycott


    Again EMOTION has nothing to do with REASON. You're trying to put reason onto a wholly emotional issue. You're not going to get good results that way. Right tool for the right job I always say.
     
  8. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did you seriously just say that a jewish person wouldn't know a racial slur when it was slung at them? I'll bet italians don't know what dago means either or irish don't know what a mick is. Native americans probably don't know you're insulting them when you say Injuns either.
    Cmon. Seriously. Stop taking the (*)(*)(*)(*).

    This one: "Nope. Unless some violent outbreak happens because those words are used continuously to incite violence and hatred to one of those groups.
    But do continue."
    As referenced "*******" refers to arabs.

    Run Run Away Brave Sir Robin
     
  9. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the entirety of the south does this eh?
     
  10. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    11,087
    Likes Received:
    5,310
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because if you call me a "honky" I'll probably be amused rather than offended.
     
  11. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,728
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63



    I don't agree they're equally offensive. And I don't understand how testing the obscenity filter on one website proves what standards "society" might hold.




     
  12. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    11,688
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No, what is your point? You started by quoting me. What is your point?

    I have never even said anything about it! and I don't care! and it doesn't matter!

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3

    I never said that. stop it.

    As I've said, I NEVER said anything about that at all. It's just you, who for some odd reason, want to change the subject to fighting various minorities. It does look very ridiculous. Stop it. And please, don't try to make such "points" in public or professional settings. This is a forum, and you're anonymous, so it's not so bad, but don't do this crap elsewhere. For your own sake. You will appear like a fool.

    Also, if some one were to get violent for being called polack, paki, or jap, they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous small people.

    Have you realised yet that I am actually just complaining about it being emotional rather than rational? What is your point?
     
  13. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    12,114
    Likes Received:
    5,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So **** doesn't conjure up gas chambers? Or are gas chambers nonviolent?
     
  14. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    9,582
    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Nazis didn't use the word ****.
     
  15. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2013
    Messages:
    17,331
    Likes Received:
    8,800
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you don't get to decide what is equally offensive only the ones that those demining, degrading, and derogatory words are direct at can make that decision then it is subjective to the individual and in the context it is used
     
  16. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,728
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63


    Not really, it's a yiddish word and there weren't a lot of Jews operating those gas chambers. Was the word even used before world war II?



     
  17. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,728
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63



    Of course I do. And so do you and the next guy... and our collective opinions will influence the laws and customs of our nation. If you believe otherwise pick a random word, decide using it is a hate crime and see how far you get.




     
  18. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That there is a double standard when you censor one racial slur but not the others. You know...... the op? Have you even been reading the thread?

    You accused me of being an internet tough guy. I was simply pointing out that using a racial slur on someone is liable to cause an altercation. If you didn't like my illustration: Well I"m just so broken up about that. Really. I am. I don't know how I'll live with myself, some random apparently swedish guy on the internet doesn't agree with me!!! O the huge manatee!

    "Yes I am, because I'm making the point that they are not inherently offensive. There is a big difference between "stupid paki" and just "paki". "
    ^ That's you a few posts back. I say you go test your claim. Find a pakistani and ask them if "paki" is offensive to them. When they say "hell yes it is and (*)(*)(*)(*) you very much" and threaten you with bodily harm or actually commit it against your person, you can explain to them why they are "(*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous small people." as you put it.

    My point? That your expectation that an emotionally charged issue like expressions of racial hatred would be resolved by reason is rather foolish and naive. Seriously, have you ever MET people? We are not reasonable beings, we are beings capable of reason. Its a subtle difference but the sooner you grasp and accept it and learn to work with it the sooner your blood pressure will level off.
     
  19. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,684
    Likes Received:
    7,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
  20. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    12,114
    Likes Received:
    5,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is that relevant?
     
  21. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,728
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63
  22. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2015
    Messages:
    12,114
    Likes Received:
    5,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It has nothing to do with what year was it. **** is a derogatory word for Jew, and Jews have also had a violent history. Saying (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is he only word with a violent history is wrong and I just proved it.
     
  23. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    11,688
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And why are you making that point to me? I have not disputed it.

    Why? Just why, would you bother to make that completely irrelevant point? Why? why!

    Yes, my view is that "paki" is not inherently offensive, and that people shouldn't view it as such. I do not deny that people actually view it as offensive despite that. Those are different, keep them apart.

    If someone threatens me with violence for uttering a word, they are small and ridiculous people. I'm sure most people would agree it is not okay to get violent over a word, even if it is offensive. That is what retards do, and drunken people, irresponsible people, kids, punks. Not well manner people.

    Oh, you think I come here with the expectation that I was going to solve all the problems? I did not. I came here to post my opinion of it. This is a forum. Do you know what those are for?
     
  24. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2012
    Messages:
    9,582
    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    0
    To show that the word doesn't conjure images of gas chambers and the specific post I was referring to was just being hyperbolic.

    The wierd thing about the word **** is it does indeed seem to originate in Germany, but it was used by some German Jews to demean other Jews.
     
  25. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,728
    Likes Received:
    207
    Trophy Points:
    63



    If the word wasn't used when that 'violent history' you're talking about happened, citing it doesn't demonstrate the word has a violent history.




     

Share This Page