Faced with anti-vaccination parents, teens are helping one another get Covid shots

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd like to see a news story titled "Faced with pro-vaccination parents, teens help each other"
     
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    You can find plenty of stories like that in far left and far right anti-vax blogs, I'm sure. Lots of those in the "Vaccines are a plot by the Illuminati!" lunatic communities.
     
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    This virus is still ravaging countries that don't have the vaccine. I am deeply grateful that the virus isn't as deadly to the general population as we initially believed because I've had close family members that contracted it and recovered I have also lost family members and friends to it. Not believing in the vaccine is a personal choice but actively campaigning against taking it is reckless.
     
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    Most of us have had many vaccines. We also have record levels of autism and auto-immune disease in our society. But by all means, keep injecting adjuvants such as Aluminium, silicon, mineral oil, Cytosine Phosphoguanine, etc. at the drop of a hat. If you get an auto-immune disease don't say I didn't warn you.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19880572/
     
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    Or you could try actually looking at the facts and stop spreading this garbage. Won't hold my breath. Spoiler alert: no, vaccines don't cause autism, etc.

    Did you know that sodium explodes upon contact with water and that chlorine is poisonous? Yet you eat salt. Congrats. Today you learned how compounds work.
     
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    Which facts? The ones government gives you or the ones doctors in the field are experiencing?
     
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    No surprise...

    Evil cultural marxists took control away from parents decades ago.

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  8. yardmeat

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    The real ones. Facts don't care about your feelings or your Dear Leader's. The ones from real doctors. Quite making up **** to get more people killed. Try paying attention to reality.
     
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    So you will ignore the warnings by doctors in the field due to your belief in government and Pharma.
     
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    No, I'll keep going with scientists. Including my spouse. And keep ignoring lunatic conspiracy theories that aren't capable of providing any basis for their attempts to infect more people. But you keep pretending that this was created at Area 51 and that medicine is an Illumnati conspiracy or whatever other **** you need to make up to avoid the facts. Cool cool.
     
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    If you really believed this you wouldn't have injected the false equivalency.
    The FACTS are that
    1. Covid is NOT dangerous to children
    2. We CAN'T know the long term effects of the vaccine
     
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    The facts are:
    1. Children don't have to experience dangerous side-effects in order to spread the virus
    2. By any rational, objective measure, the vaccine isn't nearly as dangerous as COVID itself.

    But, hey, those are facts, and we wouldn't be here if you were capable of considering facts. We'd never be here with any anti-Vaxxer. It's lunacy. It's anti-health lunacy.
     
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    You aren't stupid so cut the sh**

    1. Children have NOT been shown to be a major vector of infection
    1a. If you are in a risk group then it's ON YOU to get vaccinated
    2. You have no ****** clue what long term effects of the vaccine may be to children. "Covid itself" is not dangerous to healthy kids by any rational measure.

    And for the record, I'm no anti-vaxxer! This is just more lib-**** buzzword bullshit meant to paint me with a group of nuts. It's a simplistic way of dismissing an argument you don't like and can't refute. And it's weak as f***.
     
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    So your wife is a virologist?
     
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    Which has precisely nothing to do with your false claim the VAERS shows thousands of deaths linked to the vaccine, name something that has zero probability to cause you to die?

    Are you at least willing to admit that your claim is false?
     
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    Biologist PhD specializing in infectious diseases.
     
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    Everyone dies. No matter what you do, you can and will die. Ever play with a yo-yo? You can (and will) die. If you can finally figure out why that's different from smoking, you can start to put together why you comparison between smoking and vaccines is hot garbage.
     
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    Phfft, I don’t know you can even think that holds up to a 5min search on YouTube, don’t know about you but I ignore all my education and 20 plus years of experience and just go with YouTube videos.

    I’m an expert specialist in 312 different fields now and I’ll probably add a couple more over the weekend. So I’m fully qualified to argue any point and deny all facts and science
     
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    That if I were anti-vax and discovered a health care provider vaccinated my minor child w/o my consent, there'd lawsuits.
     
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    An absurd response since I provide a NIH link to support the comment I made about adjuvants. But you didn't actually read the link did you?

    Also your comment about compounds is a very weak strawman fallacy. Go back and try reading the NIH link I provided and then respond with a well reasoned argument if you want to have an actual discussion.
     
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    Take that up with the doctors reporting to VAERs.
     
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    Indeed.
    0-17yr olds account for ~2.2 million infections (11.3% of the total) and ~300 deaths (<0.1% of the total) for a death rate of ~0.0136%
     
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    The NIH link does not change anything, if you actually read it. Which you won't. No anti-vaxxer will.
     
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    The Title of the NIH link should have been a clue -
    Adjuvants and autoimmunity

    Some quotes from the link you did not read:

    Some adjuvants may exert adverse effects upon injection...

    Alongside their supportive role, adjuvants were found to inflict by themselves an illness of autoimmune nature

    Owing to the adverse effects exerted by adjuvants, there is no doubt that safer adjuvants need to be developed
     
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