Fair and Balanced: Fox News and Hannity lie

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/sean-hannity-fact-checked-obamacare_n_4124699.html


Wow it appears Faux news and Sean Hannity are caught again not being fair and balanced. A salon article fact checked guest on his show an it turns out they would benefit from Obamacare. So why would Hannity openly lie to his views about this. Plus why would Faux let him? Since they are fair and balanced one would think they would have looked into this. Pretty shocking the a "news" source would openly lie to it viewership.

 

Too much wrong with the ridiculous OP to cover it all.

First: Not a SHRED of evidence that the author spoke to ANYONE.

Second: Not a SHRED of proof of the "plans" he claimed to have found.

Third: Conveniently omitted any mention of changes in DEDUCTIBLES and other OUT-OF-POCKET expenses.

Of course...it's Salon.com, so what could we expect?

 

I expect a lot more out of Salon than anyone would expect of Sham Hammity!

 

If the Salon piece is lies, Hannity will hit back hard. Has he? Have any of the participants refuted the Salon piece?

ETA-- Regarding your third point, none of Hannity's "victims of Obamacare" had grievances about that. Their complaints were 1) Obamacare was forcing them to keep their workers at under 30 hours (ACA doesn't apply to their business since it only has 4 employees). 2) Blue Cross was upping the premium on their current policy (the "victim" hadn't bothered to see what was available on the exchange, and it turns out they would have a 60% cut in their premium), and 3) An older couple complaining that they were being forced to buy insurance which covers prenatal care, pediatric care, etc. which they would never use (They, too, had not bothered to check the exchange, which has a plan which would cut their current premiums by 63%).

 

If Fox says that water is wet it's best to verify it for yourself.

 

I don't watch Fox News, but I thought Hannity had an opinion and comment show, not news reports.

I don't watch MSNBC either, but I doubt that Maddow reports news either.

 

The "participants" are, I would wager, UNAWARE of the Salon article, and its claims..as is Hannity, clearly.

 

General Rule of Thumb: Everything you hear on FOX News is a lie. If you go on that assumption you will almost always be right.

 

Gernal Rule of Thumb: We KNOW Sean Hannity spoke to these people; we have NOT ONE SHRED OF A EVIDENCE ANYWHERE, that Salon's "reporter" did.

 

Not like all the evidence the guests provided hannity?

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Sad hannity doesn't ask the most basic question like "how many employees do you have?"

He's lucky to have folks like you who either don't notice or don't care

 

In PERSON. There is no proof that Salon.com even SPOKE TO THESE PEOPLE. NONE.

 

lol news outlets generally dont completely fabricate conversations, and of course you have no evidence to even suggest such a thing.

 

If Slate made it up, I'm sure that will be trumpeted on Fox, and those people will loudly refute the story. Let's wait and see if that happens. *crickets*

 

I would think these couples contacted Hannity as to what effect Obama care had on them. I would also think Hannity took them at their word. What real proof has been shown that Hannity didn't report what was told him or that what Sterns reported is true?

 

Marine...read my related post.....http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=328401&page=7

At the bottom of the page.

AboveAlpha

 

NOTE TO LIBERALS: You'll notice not a single Conservative poster has resorted to finger pointing and bringing up examples of when other networks did the same thing Hannity is ACCUSED of...or worse!

That tells you Conservatives aren't generally as petty minded as you and we generally don't play tit4tat.

So, when you are trying to imagine how Conservatives think, just keep in mind we are more mature than you.

Generally speaking.

 

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I have posted this before.

Back at the beginning of the Invasion of Iraq....FOX news....regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks of them....did a great service for our Troops over there by helping connect our guy's to their families via their tech. to let the families know they were OK.

Now I know FOX does what it does...that being it pushes a Conservative Agenda....but know this....I am a person in a position to KNOW THE REALITY of a great many things and this is because of my...JOB.

I KNOW...not just guess....or think...or am just making it up....but KNOW....that on more occasions than I can count....various Liberal Agenda pushing entities such as MSNBC and on occasion...CNN....and without a doubt...NPR.....has PURPOSELY REPORTED things they KNOW are not true.

Now as I have said before I am a Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal Independent for Massachusetts and we have Universal Healthcare....Gay Marriage and a BALANCED STATE BUDGET.....all the while having Universal Healthcare created by our Republican Governor Mitt Romney with the help of the brightest and best in the Nation and with the help of a Democratic Legislature.

IT REALLY P!$$@# ME OFF.....when I hear a LIE on NPR RADIO....that I KNOW to be a LIE....because I and my Team might have been involved.

AboveAlpha

 

Universal healthcare might work and people might be able to buy it cheaper, but from what I am hearing, is the cost of the deductible. From what I understand there are different plans. The cheaper plans have the much higher deductible and the higher cost plans have a lower deductible. Stands to reason, poorer people will buy the cheaper plan and high deductible and may never be able to collect on some, or all bills because they couldn't meet the deductible. Does that sound possible?

I also don't think a company is compelled to offer the higher priced and better plan. I would think they could offer the cheapest plan and still meet the government requirements.

PS. I mean Obama care not Universal health care.

 

The current Massachusetts Universal Healthcare Program.....WORKS!!!

We have Universal Care and a BALANCED BUDGET.

As long as some of the idiots in Washington don't mess with it...as Obama Care is based on Romney Care....and if it is left the way it was designed to work...as the people who Romney called in to design this plan were the absolute best and brightest that existed....it will work on a National Level.

That is...as LONG AS THEY USE THE MASSACHUSETTS PLAN!!!

AboveAlpha

 

I'm with you, Bro.

 

I'm not sure what the difference between the two are. But isn't Massachusetts a fairly rich state compared to many other states, especially down South and don't they have a smaller population?

What I'm driving at is, I would think the state would have a smaller cost to pay for health care than would many other poorer states, so that tax on people wouldn't be that high in Mass.

But if we took it on a national level, we have 47% of the population that are so poor that they pay no tax, which would make the tax burden on the other 53% much higher.

 

Actually....we have some cities in Mass that have I believe one of the highest if not the highest number of Puerto Rican populations in the Nation.

Believe me...if my rates went up I would be typing something VERY different here but it WORKS....but not if the change it!!!

AboveAlpha

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Also...studies have been done and even using the Highest Projected Costs and this is a Republican Study....the amount of money the states and Fed spend covering uninsured Emergency Room and Hospital Costs FAR EXCEEDS even the Republican High End Cost of Universal Healthcare.

AboveAlpha

 

Lets look at what would also happen to a lot of poorer people with Obama care. Lets say most of the poorer people bought the cheapest plan of say $400.00 a month. In a year they would have paid in $4,800.00. Now lets say the deductible is $10,000.00. Before the insurance company would pay a dime to a hospital for a small operation that $10,000.00 would have to be paid and that $4,800.00 for premiums doesn't go on that deductible. So if you had a $5,000.00 hospital bill and hadn't yet paid the deductible, you'll have paid out $9,800.00 and not got back a penny from the insurance company. Then it all starts over the following Jan.

 

Chicken-hawk Hannity's transgressions are a tempest in a tea pot. Here's an article that accused the NY Times of acting like the Associated Press as an arm of the State Dept propaganda machine:
http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/10/21/mo...es-buries-cia-facts-re-latin-american-deaths/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

 

It is crazy making those without insurance go to the emergency room for minor care, It is the most expensive care we can give. What is wrong in having them go to these Urgent care centers spread around the cities that are for smaller problems? If you have a bad headache we make the uninsured go to the emergency room. We could save billions just changing that and free up the lines in the emergency rooms for people who need it.