Famous Euro footballers condemn Israeli barbarians & call for boycott

thanks for the heads up. You sure its ABC and not CNN?
Ill look for it here.

I've been a fan of hers for a long time.

She's a real journalist and isn't afraid of directly asking tough questions to presidents, kings, dictators etc.

 

so you too believe that accusations are equivalent to a guilty verdict. Okay I understand your thinking.

Bahr Idriss Abu Garda
Idriz Balaj
Ramush Haradinaj
Serbia genocide in Bosnia
michael jackson
Jacob Zuma
OJ Simpson
Lizzie Borden
Claus Von Bulow

 

I thought you would be an apologist for an Israeli war criminal, so no surprise there.

 

Who cares what some soccer player thinks?

 

So would you condemn the Hamas rocket attacks in retaliation for Israel attacking a Gaza sports stadium and assassinating a senior Hamas leader?
What kind of weird reactions are you Zionist apologists expecting from those who were attacked? Could you expect what you demand, namely inactivity against assault, to be duplicated by israel if the events were reverse?

OF COURSE NOT!!!!

So what does that make you? Hint: It starts with H and ends in crite.

Yet 57% of 'Murkans believe the same. What does that make them?

Good for the football players!! This is how the demise of the Apartheid South African regime started .... through sports boycotts.

 

One of the world’s largest cross-border trade union groups has declared its support for the campaign to boycott Israeli goods and institutions.

The PSI Public Services International binds together some 500 public-sector unions, who deliver vital services in 150 countries.

Welcoming the PSI vote, Muhammed Desai from the organization BDS South Africa said: “Public tenders, municipal contracts and other services must now be scrutinized by shop stewards and trade unionists to ensure that our public services are not in any way connected to Israel. There should be no normal relations with an abnormal state.”

 

I think most of the world was disgusted especially the sporting world when the Israeli Luftwaffe bombed and destroyed the Gaza Paralympic HQ building and the disabled training stadium in their latest killing spree

 

yes ABC not CNN

 

The former. She used to be Mossad, may still be, probably you never leave. Think she is the same one that felt she would be arrested as a war criminal, lest she come here, remember? She is quite bright and sounds plausible though, unlike Palin, who sounded about as bright as an evening in Stockport.

 

With regards to what part?

The part about her being a war criminal? Well, to fully determine that, we would need her to arrested and tried. However, they shifted the goalposts in order to make her arrest near impossible. Look it up yourself, I don't care. And no, as I have consistantly said over the months, unlike the Fascist state of Israel, who imprison children on trumped up charges, then put them before a panel which often includes settlers, and unlike plutocratic US embracing rendition, torture, secret evidence, and locked up without trial...I do not support any of those methods - for anyone.

Even were it possible for me to order the arrest of who I felt to be the primary Israeli war criminals, I would personally insist they be properly tried, in a proper court, with a proper defence and no torture.

 

How can who do what? How can the US make IPAC register as foreign? Easily. How can they not? Unless, of course, they are too far gone to be able to do such a thing. Not sure what you mean by you closing part, is it some sort of threat?

 

Naturally, he will make no mention of post 60. Seems to me like HE is the one jumping the gun....

 

Um...the Governing bodies, all the fans, and all of the respective clubs.

But apart from that, no, you're right...no one.

 

Very Germanic AshkeNAZI.

Kill the disabled and the handicapped.

 

The thing is, Habeus Corpus being what it is, obviously she's innocent until proven guilty. As you inferred, it's a cornerstone of democratic and civilized societies and you, like me, wouldn't have it any other way. She's a "suspected" war criminal in the same way that Milosevic was a "suspected" war criminal. What Jonsa is doing is using sophistry to camoflage the bleeedin' obvious because for some reason he feels impugned to defend the indefensible....AGAIN.

 

Hitler was obviously a good teacher

 

Yeah, it's so transparent, moreover, note how I actually take the more civilised stance (no torture, no secret evidence etc), while he supports a state the routinely engage in it.

And I am the 'Nazi'.

Well, if that is the credentials of a 'Nazi', and Jonsa supports that which he sees as 'anti Nazi', all I can say is - Sieg Heil.

 

He is just the buzz name, the focal point. People have been reduced to thinking in such terms, no depth, no context, nothing.

It's an interesting thing though, on an unrelated thread, some time ago, we were discussing if people would be more likely to have a termination if they knew the baby may be born with Downs, or some such thing. There are probably no reliable stats for this, or any stats, but if it were possible, it would be interesting to observe if the motive of having a termination done, for this reason, differed, country to country.

 

I thought you would convict any Israeli on a mere accusation so I'm not surprised.

Sorry, but from where I come from everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I guess you have a different standard where you come from.

 

Like I said, for everybody other than ardent Milosevic supporters, it was obvious he was guilty of the crimes attributed to him prior to his trial. Same with the "suspected" Israeli war criminal.

 

thanks, I looked it up. I think that changing a law where just any private citizen can request an arrest warrant of any visiting diplomat is a sensible thing to do. the change as I understand it is the private citizen must go thru the director of public prosecutions.

The bar was set too low, so the law was changed to prevent its abuse for political purposes by individuals (be they sincere or not). Seems to me that in the world of international relations and diplomacy that safeguard makes sense.

I totally agree that administrative detention is abusive and would be completely illegal if not for the military law under belligerant occupation. It is used to supposedly prevent a crime from happening, e.g., intell uncovers plan to blow something up.

There were 156 administrative detainees in oct.2012, none were minors

Detainees, those not yet charged with a crime 122 adults, 1 minor under 16 yrs old, 9 minors 16 to 18 years old as of oct 2012.

Of adult prisoners, there were 4124 total adult prisoners of which 3021 were serving sentences (552 for life) 122 detained pending charges, 825 pending legal outcome and the 156 administrative detainees.

Use of torture was outlawed in 1999 but naturally of the over 700 complaints lodged between 2001 and 2011 were not even investigated.

I don't know what you are talking about a panel including settlers. I thought children were supposed to be tried in a separate military court (from adults).

Any, if your a palestinian child and you get arrested by the IDF, you be in serious trouble. No doubt the process of arrest and detention is abusive (some call it psychological torture) and the kids are usually put in jail with adults - (if what goes on in our prisons goes on in their prisons, a bunch of young boys is just the ticket or the lifers and perverts ....)

Lots of solid information on palestinian detentions - adult and children.
http://www.btselem.org/torture/impunity

Palestinian site with a good chronology of reports and events (Military law improvements etc)
http://www.dci-palestine.org/documents/israeli-spokesperson-suggests-authorities-unaware-ill-treatment-claims

I have to agree that the treatment of child prisoners is unnecessarily brutal. Particularly since the vast majority are arrested for throwing stones. It is also interesting that of the 84% of child cases that actual go to trial, the conviction rate is a stupid 99.5% or thereabouts. Either they are all pleading guilty to get the hell outta there or the deck must be stacked.

that's the way we do too. (although I think nearly every country has administrative detention provisions)

BTW - Obama has outlawed "enhanced interrogation techniques", abolished rendition and secret overseas prisons. But secret evidence is still used in special cases and administrative detention is too.

 

Well if your ZOG conspiracy was remotely true, then they wouldn't map AIPAC register as a foreign lobby group now would they. So they can't do that.


It was supposed to be a smart ass reference of one of the famous lines from wizard of oz. I think we are way past threatening each other, at least I hope we are.

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wrong again.

I do not defend the abuse and/or mistreatment of children. I NEVER blindly defend anything or anyone.

Seems to me that you just jumped the gun again........ oh dear. petard where are you?

 

hahahahaahahahah.

You guys are a pair. First you adamantly claim shes a war criminal.

I point out the presumption of innocence and suddenly shes a "suspected war criminal" and then you both say ..'well we believe in a fair trial for everyone" and obviously jonsa is defending the indefensible.

Reminds me of that classic line from the movie Silverado where the evil sherrif says"

We're going to give him a fair trial, followed by a mighty fine hanging.

habeus corpus is irrelevant to the presumption of innocence.

Sophistry for pointing out the presumption of innocence that is a fundamental human right (according to the UN and every major western country at least)? Better look it up in the dictionary to get the correct definition.

 

This post deserves its own theme song.

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