FBI Drone Captures Moment Of LaVoy Finicum’s Death

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MolonLabe2009, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Teilhard

    Teilhard New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    2,509
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    "Tarp Man" Finicum was not a kid fooling around with a pellet gun …

    You disrespect cops … Too bad …
    I hope you never need to dial *911* ...

    - - - Updated - - -

    He was "reaching" … and a loaded 9mm was found in his pocket …

    He's dead because he was a suicidal fool ...
     
  2. Babs

    Babs Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    2,957
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Does it matter ? Please explain your concern.
     
  3. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    15,962
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Thanks, that's sweet of you! :hug:
     
  4. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2015
    Messages:
    31,455
    Likes Received:
    34,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We, as Americans, need to stop putting every dude who wants their 15 minutes on pedestals ... Liberal or conservative, we
    build up idiots and soap opera morons as some type of hero. They are not. End of story.
     
  5. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    7,580
    Likes Received:
    8,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    See, this is why the reading thing is SO important. Here is what I originally wrote:

    One of the fundamental things about the English language is context. The context in which I pointed out that being seen with firearms is enough to warrant a police stop is the criminal convictions I mentioned. When you replied to me you took that statement out of its context and you did it again in the post I just quoted.

    Remedial reading classes may be in order.

    Thug life, Bundy style:

    http://media.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/other/2016/01/29/Ammonbundymemodetention.pdf
     
  6. Denizen

    Denizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2013
    Messages:
    10,424
    Likes Received:
    5,355
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He did not have his hands up at the moment he was shot. If he was surrendering he should have got down on the snow.

    Looks like Finnicum wanted to commit suicide.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I took nothing out of context at all.
    "These guys have been parading around with guns or posting images of themselves with guns on the net for some time no. Either or both of those are enough to pull the vehicles over"
    I didn't cite the first part because it wasn't necessary as covered by "These Guys". The sentence above states you can be pulled over for posting images of yourself with guns on the net, does it not? If that is not true then why did you write it? The answer to my question by you should have been YES you can be pulled over for posting pictures of yourself on the internet. So, if you have a prior conviction, and you post pictures on the internet law enforcement can pull you over for it as opposed to serving a warrant correct?
     
  8. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2016
    Messages:
    7,580
    Likes Received:
    8,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You keep quoting this out of context. Why? Can you not understand grown up English or are you just inxapable of admitting i was wrong. I gave 2 reasons they could be pulled over. You are obsessed with one. Disturbing. You know the police stop was legit, but you are going to try to argue every minute part of this to avoid admitting it.

    If police identify someone with an outstanding warrant or who they have reasonable grounds to believe have committed a crime they can pull them over. This group broadcast their crimes. They got arrested as a result. People who read and comprehend above primary school level understand that. Maybe one day you will too, though I think it more likely we will all die of old age first.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if you are in the middle of a crime and post pictures of yourself with guns, yes, you can be pulled over
     
  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if that child has a realistic looking gun, and is pointing it at cops, it's a justified shoot if they kill him.... now if hindsight shows it's not a real gun then it was a wrongful death, but it's still a justified shoot
     
  11. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    2,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Looks like the "They can pry my gun out of my cold dead hands" crowd are not ready to accept that "They can pry my gun out of my cold dead coat pocket" world they have created.
     
  12. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So why didnt you say "yes" the first time I asked? So basically people previously convicted can post a picture of them themselves on FB with a gun replica and can get pulled over in traffic...reason being..."SIR, do you know why I pulled you over?" "No" "facebook pictures... now put your hands in the air so I can execute you."
     
  13. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Any updates on this? I don't really want to read 14 pages of vitriol and venom. I watched the video. Looks like summary execution, I am sick of hearing the "waistband" excuse. What if your balls itch? Cops are just allowed to execute you, or in this case, the feds?

    These state executioners are entirely out of hand.
     
  14. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    nothing new, still looks like a Justified shoot of a man that days earlier claimed they would not take him alive

    .
     
  15. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    15,962
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    See, this is the BS that needs to stop. Tamir Rice didn't point anything at the cops. You invented that. You aren't interested in the facts. You're only interested in defending the fake-ass heroes you've created for yourself. Get off your knees, the view is better.
     
  16. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    From the video I didn't see a weapon. Not only that, but freedom of speech pretty much states this man can say they'll only take me dead, and the state can't hold it against him, as it's his right to say such things.

    Guaranteed by the constitution.

    Anyway, I didn't see a weapon in his hand. His hands were up. Justified shoot how? Looks like more gestapo grab ass being played here.
     
  17. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you may think he was just showing them the gun, but from the cops point of view he was pointing it at them...... sadly they could not read the kids mind


    - - - Updated - - -

    he can say it, but if he then takes over a federal building armed with guns, and then when pulled over, he takes off and when stopped again, looks like he is going for a gun, he can be justifiably shot dead

    they should of camped out on federal land without guns.... a peaceful protest would of been a better option imo then a armed take over of a federal building

    and his hands were not up when he was shot....

    .
     
  18. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's irrelevant. The cops in the Tamir Rice shooting acted like bravados on an 80's flick, leaping out of cars, guns blazing. It's the adrenaline junkie, war hero façade these clowns throw about.

    The recruitment videos the cops use target guys who don't have the balls to join the military. It's easier for cowards to do the job when the "bad guys" generally won't be shooting back.

    The cops are completely out of control in this country, and of course, it's going to lead to more and more tyranny via state sanctioned executions and the trampling of our rights.

    Since we have the right to a fair trial, the right to just and equal treatment, the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness, any summary execution by the state that lingers on any ordinance or law that counters the constitution is an unconstitutional act and thus not one that should be enforced or allowed in a civil society.
     
  19. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    2,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If Lavoy were black, a lot of people not seeing this as a clean shooting would suddenly be praising the agents. Probably the lack of contrast between his skin color and the snow that is giving them so much trouble.
     
  20. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    sad but true, even most republicans stopped supporting this group

    [​IMG]
     
  21. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes great. So we can start pulling over gang members now right? So if I see FB pics of them with guns and they have been previously convicted they can be pulled over and executed if they make any sudden moves such as following an officers commands...right?
     
  22. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,347
    Likes Received:
    63,483
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if they are committing an armed robbery and you see them in the getaway car, sure you can

    it's a crime in progress and yes, you can pull them over......

    .
     
  23. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nothing really, I was just using my phone to view the video and quality was poor as my eyes.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  24. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What about posting fb pictures of yourself with a gun if you arent supposed to have guns if a previous conviction says you cant posess firearms?
     
  25. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you would prefer the FBI waited until he pulled a gun out and started shooting? 'What if' is never a reasonable position to argue from.
     

Share This Page