FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year Than Rifles

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    US= 300,000,000+

    Australia = about 30 people, and a total of about 70 teeth...
     
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    It proves your witch hunt is crap. There is no gun epidemic.
     
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    And then we have Senator Diane Feinstein on the Left Coast who possesses something more rare than a conservative Republican in San Francisco - an unrestricted concealed weapons permit. Apparently without shame, she participated in a citywide gun turn-in program that was intended to create some kind of statue from the donated guns that were to be melted down. One of her police body guards let it slip that she contributed a cheap model for the meltdown, while retaining her .357 magnum revolver for her own personal self-defense.

    Also, a check of Pistol License records shows that Senator Schumer possesses an "unrestricted" pistol permit, a rarity in New York City.


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    http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=10104
     
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    People kill people
     
  5. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    and population figures?
    The UK has more violence than Aus or US. you just want to keep grinding about guns like you guys live in some perfect Utopia. You just want to split hairs about tools.
    Since you are a subject, your opinion is given to you by someone else because it is approved rhetoric. But thank God, not all brits/Aussies think like you. I bet they are referred to as criminals because of their thoughts....so anti-queen-like...........
    You wouldn't know a Right if it slapped you in the face, because you cannot produce one Document that lists your Rights. You have a list of cannot do's instead.......................That's why you cannot ever understand.
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    I have him/her/whatever on a "Don't bother replying" but I do note that they seem somewhat...............uninformed about comparisons of international crime statistics

    Even homicide statistics can be a little difficult to compare as some countries have different categories for homicide i.e. ist second and third degree murder versus murder or manslaughter

    It is n worse with crimes like rape -as we have seen recently in India it is not enough to have legislation - one must also have the police to follow through with charges and the legal will to proceed with those charges.

    The way statistics are collected within countries also makes a difference - i.e. shoplifting could be placed under robbery. theft or "a right nuisance"
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    witch hunt...............good one XL. That is spot on. What I'm really curious about is how many anti-gunners secretly own........Besides dipsy Fiendstein
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    I have him/her/whatever on a "Don't bother replying" but I do note that they seem somewhat...............uninformed about comparisons of international crime statistics

    Even homicide statistics can be a little difficult to compare as some countries have different categories for homicide i.e. ist second and third degree murder versus murder or manslaughter

    It is n worse with crimes like rape -as we have seen recently in India it is not enough to have legislation - one must also have the police to follow through with charges and the legal will to proceed with those charges.

    The way statistics are collected within countries also makes a difference - i.e. shoplifting could be placed under robbery. theft or "a right nuisance"
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, things have changed, kids today can't share their music with friends legally, when we were kids we could share... loan someone our record, our tape, our books, whatever, today kids are taught not to share, told sharing is bad...


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  10. Dr. Righteous

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    I'm not in favor of banning assault rifles, but you completely destroyed the OP's entire argument here. Unsurprisingly, he just completely ignored your post. I'm shocked and amazed that the thread wasn't closed after that, because the OP would just be trolling at this point.
     
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    Ok apologies for not finishing my post last night, on a date etc...

    I dont really need to show any timelines, Ill just point out this;

    Hitler did not disarm the populace before 'enslaving them'. He didnt need to and neither does any other tyrant. What does that mean? It means tyrants can effect their tyranny whether or not the population has guns. Example? Sure -

    The entire middle east and africa, where guns and dictators are ubiquitous.

    Your attempt to blame a school grounds weapons ban is surely the worst yet. Your logic thus says that if there was not a weapons ban then it was likely that on the day in question a person in the area would have been armed and would have ably stopped the shooting.

    The trouble is, no massacre in the US has ever been prevented by an armed civilian. Therefore the evidence shows its not a solution, thats probably why the experts ie the police, are against the notion.

    Oh and what ever happened to your suggestion that hammers must be banned too? Just so much smoke and mirrors eh?
     
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    Yes the knife laws do effect gangs... they can only carry tiny knives around. Thus reducing the injuries sustained. Thats why the police wanted the law made this way.
     
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    Well sorry, but true freedom is messy and socially darwinistic and sometimes innocent people die. But that is the price to pay for freedom, it costs lives and money. Always has, always will.

    Freedom includes the freedom to own a weapon that can inflict deadly harm.

    Liberals may ask "Why would anyone want a weapon like that?"

    To that I answer:

    "Because we are not serfs, we are a free people who hold the Government up at our consent, not ruled by it."
     
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    Nonsense, most dictators effect control of their country quite happily even with an armed population.
     
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    Dumbest.post.ever.
     
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    Prove him wrong

    I have researched this and the only mass shootings that have been stopped by people who are not on duty police were ones stopped by off duty police
     
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    Wouldn't be called a mass murder if it never happens lol...
     
  18. happy fun dude

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    I guess we aren't on the same page with "they"..

    Of course there are individuals like Fernstein who want this ban.. Obama may or may not, the guy bull(*)(*)(*)(*)s all the time you can't really tell.

    Allow me to clarify.. The congress aren't going to take any of the guns away. I highly doubt this. They simply don't have the support for it.

    They tried to ressurect the assault rifle ban five times since it expired in 2004. It was voted on once and got crushed.. The other four times it never even made it to the floor.

    Meanwhile, your first, fourth, fifth, sixth and ninth amendments are thoroughly butchered by legislation that has been passed.

    That's why I think you should look the other way.. Instead of getting worked up about rights they may or may not take tomorrow, or you think they might take tomorrow, do something about the rights that they are taking TODAY as we speak and yesterday.. Make sense?
     
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    I never said that.. Don't accuse me of lying when you are the one typing out the misquote.

    I mean the congress aren't going to.

    And this time around, you've got a supreme court that would quash such a bill anyway.
     
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    Nobody ever said you did... The bill hasn't even been introduced yet.. By all means tell your congressmen how you feel about it.

    But legislation that shredded all your other major rights has been passed.. Has your voice been heard?
     
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    I remembered this without even doing the research. Of courswe this mass shooting was stopped in progress...
     
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    We keep trying to warn these people on the Left that their leaders are an elite above the laws meant for them.
     
  23. tomfoo13ry

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    lol Show me a single case of polio that was prevented by a vaccine and I'll show you a billion or so massacres prevented by armed civilians.

    Then you're a p1ss poor researcher. Pearl, Mississippi - mass shooting stopped by assistant principal with a .45ACP. Why don't you know that already?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bottom line is that you don't know what will happen one way or the other.

    I can walk and chew gum at the same time. These things aren't unrelated, you know?
     
  25. tomfoo13ry

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    Ahh, so I should just roll over and take it because my voice hasn't been heard? You stick to that plan and I'll stand up for what I think is right.
     

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