FBI raids the office of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen

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  1. notme

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    That it is a crime, according to the Deputy Attorney General who is the supervisor of Mueller.
     
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    Come’on man. Read the actual text.
     
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    The text:

    Allegations that Paul Manafort:

    Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law

    And that is specified as

    Defendants, together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the Federal Election Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the U.S. Department of State in administering federal requirements for disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities.
     
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    You still don’t get it ?? Come’on man.
     
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    You asked how collusion is a crime. I'm giving it to you.
     
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    I said that collusion is not a crime.
     
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    I proved otherwise with a source of the US justice department.
     
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    I've always thought the righties were hiding behind a word so it's nice to see your post.
    Thanks!

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    You proved nothing.
     
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    Another illiberal who is not interested in the truth.
     
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    The US justice department talks about "crimes by colluding" so that proves colluding is a crime according to them.
     
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    Is that the actual thought process indicative of today’s lefties ?? Can’t make this up. Try thinking through your post.
     
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    All the trumpettes here can scoff and whine all they want. It IS a crime if a jury says it is.

    Now let’s focus on getting Donnie the con man in front of a jury. What could be more American than that ?
     
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    First there must be a crime ?? What is the crime ??
     
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    So far most of them have been plea bargains reduced to lying to the FBI, except for Manafort who is charged with everything except dirty underwear.
    What do you think the charge will be?
     
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    Perjury traps are plea bargains ??

    What has Manafort been charged with and when did these “crimes” occur ??
     
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    Sure. You can read them on line now where they agree to cooperate in exchange for these pleas.
    Guilty people often lie thinking they can avoid the problem. That does not mean it is their only crime.

    This is just the latest one there is another one you can look for, but it is similar.
    https://www.axios.com/paul-manafort...533-0780de5c-ae2e-4602-b0e2-61e952f18752.html
    I think he goes to trial in 2 or 3 months. But I must say, I'll be really surprised if he doesn't flip as well.
     
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    The "Trump girls" lawyer when they made their deal has now said he is working with prosecutors.
    Strange they both had the same lawyer.
     
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    So you have nothing and are not aware of when these “crimes” were committed.
     
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    Can't you read?
     
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    I can read just fine. You supplied nothing with regard to Manafort and nothing with regard to any other crimes. The only crimes which have been committed are those resulting from perjury traps.
     
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    The second Manafort indictment is in my post. There is also another larger one you can find online.
    I think the crimes were from about 2012 thru 2016 or early 2017.
     

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