FEA data regarding WTC1

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  1. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    Yes, the source is biased, that is in favor of the TRUTH.
    The scientist who wrote it has solid evidence that the
    whole hijacked airliners business is bogus.
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    So NO,you don't

    Not surprising,but then a scientist came up with the 'cold fusion' bit as well..
     
  3. genericBob

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    is a tangent
    Focus pinky .... Focus .....

    Rather than say its not proper evidence,
    how about actually rebutting the material presented?
    You can attempt to character assassinate the messenger all you want
    but actually presenting a case to counter what has been shown to be
    that is by good science & physics. What do you have?
     
  4. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    It was an example....and I didn't character assassinate' anyone,you offered no name for me to do so..

    And you've presented me with NO 'case' to counter,as well.
     
  5. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    Obviously then, you have not looked at the link I posted because the researchers name is in the web-page.
     
  6. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Lot of names on that web page...which one's character did I besmirch?
     
  7. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

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    at this point it appears that you want to have the discussion
    wander off-topic so that you will not have to address the obvious
    video fraud involved in the "FLT175" reporting.

    I invite anyone who is curious to have a look at the web-page and
    come to your own conclusions.

    http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175/

    have a nice day

    : )
     
  8. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Opened your link....read the first link
    http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175/hezarkhani/
    Who was the author of that information?
    Why doesn't anyone put their names on the web site as to their area of expertise or education?
    I mean in the article it says this "What we have here is a technical impossibility for a real aircraft and a strong sign of video forgery. It looks as if the video has been composited from 3 layers - one layer with the UA 175 aircraft, a second layer with the foreground structures and a third layer with the WTC towers." Without names how am I a casual observer suppose to tell if what is being written is based on some ones expertise or just their beliefs?

    Wouldn't it be nice to see some names and credentials?
     
  9. genericBob

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    Have you ever heard of ACE BAKER?
    there is a video on YouTube where he lays it all out
    from a video editing perspective.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds

    actually there is a LOT of activity on this subject
    you don't need to dig all that deep to find it.

    Ghost Plane "FLT175" ( etc.... )
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    I see,a non answer
     
  11. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK so here is what I find, Ace Baker is "a Alexander "Ace" Baker is an American video/music producer" Ace demonstrated "how to insert a flying airplane image into the 911 videos," but he didn't exactly disprove that a plane flew into the towers or disprove the evidence of the parts and pieces of the planes that did . Got anything else....something say more scientific?
     
  12. genericBob

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    is this scientific enough:
    an image of an aircraft is seen traveling its own length in 6 frames of 30 f/s video, that is while traveling through air, and also in 6 frames of video, penetrating nose to tail a skyscraper wall.
    do you understand this?
     
  13. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    So it was going fast....And..?
     
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    Newton's laws ... this path leads to understanding.
     
  15. genericBob

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    Yes, by all means, do apply Newton's laws to the crash of "FLT175"
     
  16. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you have Ace analyze the video of the jet smashing into the concrete wall and see if you get the same results.
     
  17. genericBob

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    Really, I'm not even going there, the case of the F4 intentional destruction of the aircraft is a sample size of ONE.
    There is a body of ballistics research that indicates the projectile
    would have to expend energy to penetrate the target and therefore slow down. you attempt to discount the entire body of ballistics research with a sample size of one demonstration. Also, WHY didn't the aircraft behave as a HOLLOW POINT? the nose of the airliner is most certainly not a solid mass....
     
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    Still waiting for you to provide mathematical evidence to back up your claim.
     
  19. genericBob

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    You can wait all you want
    REASONABLE people understand that some proofs do not have to arrive with copious quantities of numbers.
     
  20. Hannibal

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    Most people prefer evidence, rather than outlandish, unsupported claims.
     
  21. genericBob

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    How about claims supported by the facts
    Even if you don't personally like it, the fact
    is that its documented 2.25 sec. of free fall acceleration by WTC7.
    this is damning evidence and you don't approve of it, but the TRUTH
    is not dependent on your approval.

    The fact is that total destruction of WTC 1, 2 & 7 is evidence and
    very serious evidence, this is not the subject of "incredulity" its a
    fact that WTC1,2 & 7 were destroyed, and its a fact that in various
    fire code manuals, it is stated that total destruction of anything is a trigger for a swift and complete investigation of the site, testing for explosives ( etc.... ) and documenting everything. exactly what was done on 9/11/2001?
     
  22. Gamolon

    Gamolon Well-Known Member

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    Show me ANY sample of a high speed object penetrating another that shows slow down of said object.
     
  23. genericBob

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg&list=PL5B2640358CEB857E
    pay close attention to the first 5 sec.
    its rather sad that there isn't a calibrated video, that
    is one that has specific instrumentation of the ballistics
    so as to document the event.

    The fact is that given Newton's laws, the bullet upon impact
    with a target, would have nothing else to do except decelerate
    in that it takes energy to penetrate the target and the ONLY
    energy available is the KE of the projectile, and using it up
    causes deceleration. Science 101 stuff......
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    look at the video again,none of the projectiles that went through slowed down
     
  25. genericBob

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    This is strictly a matter of opinion about that
    and the physics that aligns with natural law
    is that the projectile must slow down. The
    bullet penetrating a bit of cardboard still slows
    down some amount, admittedly a rather small amount
    but it does experience some deceleration, it must in the
    act of penetrating the target.

    So what I am questioning here, is the act of the alleged
    "FLT175" penetrating a wall constructed of steel box columns
    and penetrating as if it were penetrating a cardboard wall,
    and in response people say "oh but the airliner was going soooo fast!"
    This is why I complain about people sleeping through Science 101.

    Have a nice day

    : )
     

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