FEA data regarding WTC1

Discussion in '9/11' started by Gamolon, May 30, 2014.

You are viewing posts in the Conspiracy Theory forum. PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening.

  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Question it all you want...it happened
     
  2. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    4,294
    Likes Received:
    354
    Trophy Points:
    83
    was there an expert that testified or stated what you just said or is that just a quote from the same link you posted? As a casual observer it would be nice to know where the expertise is in these statements.
     
  3. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    4,294
    Likes Received:
    354
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Well as a casual and reasonable person I like to see large quantities of evidence....don't you?
     
  4. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The evidence is clear, in the case of the alleged "FLT175"
    the aircraft was said to have penetrated the WTC south wall
    of the South Tower without any perceivable deceleration ( WHAT? )
    and the towers collapse was said to have collapsed strictly as a function of a gravity powered event with the building mass falling in on itself and causing complete & total destruction all the way down to ground level for both towers, and this is not to be considered VERY strange?
    and WTC7 falling for 2.25 sec at free fall acceleration .....
    whats up with that?

    We have all we need to conclude that the official story is completely bogus, you can go about seeking bigger and better evidence if you like, but the case is closed as far as I can see.
     
  5. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    4,294
    Likes Received:
    354
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I haven't seen any evidence yet (I still going through the link you gave me) All I have seen on this forum is mostly "because I said so"
    I would politely disagree with the "We have all we need to conclude" because I still don't know who we is....I have seen lots of other truthers who disagree vehemently with what you say about the planes with just as much proof as you have. This makes me as a casual observer quite suspicious of what is being stated.

    Thanks
     
  6. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    please read up on the laws of physics and
    ask the question why should an airliner not
    show visible slowing down upon striking a
    steel box column wall? The WTC tower wall
    would have offered up significant resistance.
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How much? calculate the force of the moving object versus the impact surface. Show your work and why it couldn't happen.
     
  8. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    here is a clue for you, the MSM & our "leaders" first asserted the hijacked airliners theory with NO math, NO plausibility or probability that it was even possible to fly airliners into skyscrapers and do what was alleged to have been done. therefore the burden of PROOF is on the MSM & our "leaders" who so far have produced NOTHING that supports the allegation that airliners were used as weapons.
     
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Incredulity. Do you have science and math or don't you?
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What kind of math would you use anyway to show the airliners were hijacked?
     
  11. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Its a very simple thing to cite the Boeing web page
    where they specify the max speed of the airliners at 35,000 ft
    therefore attempting to operate said airliner at 590 mph and at
    < 1000 ft altitude is out-of-the-question!

    There are so many things about the alleged attack using hijacked airliners as weapons that absolutely doesn't work at all, and yet
    it is allegedly attributed to "incredulity" when people with proper
    common sense reject the official fairy tale.
     
  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's maximum SAFE speed,bob,not the top speed
     
  13. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So you still believe that 150 mph over max "safe" speed is
    not only doable, but the aircraft would respond to control such that the hijackers had any chance at all of achieving their goal? .... or?
     
  14. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    the cruising speed of a 767 is 530MPH,590 is hardly '150' mph over...

    And they were going straight in,not a whole lot of controlling needed
     
  15. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Quote from the Boeing web-page
    "Typical Cruise Speed at 35,000 feet "

    Why do you think they specify 35,000 feet?

    What, leaving out critical information in an attempt
    to sell your point?
     
  16. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I left nothing out,YOU'RE the one who thinks cruise speed + is impossible at 1000 feet
     
  17. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Why do you think BOEING specified 35,000 ft
    for that speed? What makes you think that 530 mph
    at <1000 ft is possible?
     
  18. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    35,000 is a standard cruising altitude.

    Link to any document stating that it isn't possible.
     
  19. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Normal operating altitude,bob...:roll:
     
  20. genericBob

    genericBob New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    and operating an airliner at 590 mph <1000 ft altitude is abnormal.
    and indeed can not be done. given air resistance, the engines do
    not produce enough power to propel the aircraft to that speed at low altitude,
    therefore the people supporting the official fairy tale invented the "power dive" scenario to account for the speed, but that would require extra special flying skills if it could be done at all given potential damage to the aircraft.

    Also, did the "terrorists" have detailed engineering data on the WTC walls and also the PENTAGON wall? without some data, it would be a matter of launching their attack against a total unknown. Would "FLT77" be able to penetrate the PENTAGON wall or would it bounce off? and indeed with the attack against the twin towers, how did they know that the aircraft would be capable of penetrating the wall?

    the whole fairy tale about the 19 suicidal hijackers is exactly that, only a fairy tale.


    The objective of disinformation is not to convince you of one point of view or another, it is to create enough uncertainty so that everything is believable and nothing is knowable. " -- James Fetzer

    and as for me, I KNOW that no airliners were hijacked on 9/11/2001.
     
  21. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    10,624
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Source for this claim, please.
     
  22. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,601
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Why?

    psik
     
  23. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Fuel economy.
     
  24. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,601
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    And why is there better fuel economy at 35,000 ft?

    psik
     
  25. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    9,012
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Irrelevant,the hijackers weren't worried about 'economy'
     

Share This Page