First Mug Shots In Trump's Georgia Election Interference Case Released

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Fulton County officials have released the first two booking photos of defendants indicted in Donald Trump’s election interference case in Georgia.
    John Eastman, an attorney whose fringe theories were at the core of Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, turned himself in on Tuesday and was released on $100,000 bond.
    Later in the evening, the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office released his image:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/first-mug-shots-trumps-georgia-041330214.html

    Well, the first mugshots have been released. Eastman and Hall.
    So, barring any sort of "special treatment", Trump will have his mugshot taken (and released publicly).
    Quite a comedown from someone who actually served as POTUS.
    Maybe in the future, Trump will learn that the best way to avoid mugshots is to obey the law?
    It is really going to be funny to see how he spins having his mugshot released.
     
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    The dispassionate administration of justice turned into a gag show. At least, can they openly admit there's nothing 'dispassionate' about this? They could've found any wrongdoing(and damn well tried) for this pornographic outcome. Hey, at least people's fetishes can be fulfilled on this great day.

    Meanwhile, my goal is to prevent us from as much as possible emulating the European Union.
     
  3. The Ant

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    Good grief AN…….someone prepare the fainting couch! You need to lighten up mate….
     
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    It's actually pretty easy for a small county court to go after anyone, even if that person never set foot in that state.

    One wonders whether these courts should really have the power to go after someone so important as a former president, if maybe there should be more judicial oversight.

    I personally think Trump is too trusting of the court system, but maybe his lawyers advised him that with Biden in charge of the White House and Department of Justice, they would be biased and likely to seek federal extradition if he did not go to the state of Georgia and comply with the court order there. I don't know.

    I personally think what Trump did in this situation was wrong, but think it is absurd and even more wrong that they're going after him for this, given the situation.
    For simply saying something over the course of a conversation over the telephone, while he was President of the country, and not even in the state which has jurisdiction at the time. Something that merely could imply undue influence but doesn't really clearly do so.
     
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  5. AmericanNationalist

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    I would lighten up, if it weren't for the fact that this was hoped for years. With feverish fanfare and anticipation. And while Trump put all of this in motion on his own, it is not good for the country that we're doing this to symbolically get a mug shot.

    https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/mugshot-photographs-and-the-criminal-law-53110

    Seems we inherited the tradition of mugshots from the French, and sure it may have its purposes in identifying the John Eastman's of the world(basically anyone without a celebrity status) but this is Donald Trump, the shot isn't necessary. It's cathartic!

    I do think Trump not only will obviously attend, but take the shot himself. Because frankly, it fits into his whole martyr campaign thing going on.
     
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    Seems like you want a "two-tier" justice system: A mugshot for everyone else, but not for Trump. It's funny how hypocrisy ALWAYS catches up with the modern party of Trump.
     
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    Your last sentence…..exactly! The clown will continue to perform for his audience. So, why shouldn’t the rest of us laugh at him…?
     
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    The country supersedes one man, or the desire to dunk on this one man. I have very real fears about 2024 one way or the other. Hopefully there aren't any numbskulls and people accept that Trump cooked his own goose. But the alternative is that if Trump wins, all hell breaks loose, and if Biden wins, all hell breaks loose.

    And this stupid mug shot isn't helping with any of that. Which is why the other 3 cases didn't take that step. Georgia couldn't help itself.
     
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    So, they should suspend “normal practice “ for this one defendant…??

    “Fulton County Sheriff Pat Labat said his department plans on following “normal practices,” including taking mugshots, when former President Trump is formally booked.”

    https://www.verifythis.com/article/...abat/536-21512c66-b6b0-4cc9-b54b-b31e19d43e16

    He’s a criminal defendant, not a king…
     
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    The idea that someone is "too important" to be subject to our judicial system without additional "oversight" is counter to everything our country stands for.

    As Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson ruled quoting Founding Fathers James Madison and Alexander Hamilton and French diplomat Alexis de Tocqueville to explain the nature of the presidency.

    “Stated simply, the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings,” Jackson wrote.

    But, of course, this is not what Trump (or his supporters) want to hear. To them Trump should be above the law, immune from the very idea of prosecution due to the simple fact that he is an ex president and a candidate to be president.

    They are trying to portray these prosecutions as an attempt to interfere in his campaigning for President. They want us to believe that he wouldn't even BE the subject of the prosecution if he had never been President.

    These are false ideas. Trump is subject to prosecution because it's very apparent he broke the law. Just like every other person in this country he needs to face the consequences of his actions.

    The idea that these prosecutions are designed to interfere with his campaign, again Trump and the MAGA crowd have it exactly backwards. The prosecutions are not designed to interfere in his campaign. His campaign is designed to interfere with the prosecutions.
     
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    It's not about him being a king. It's the fact that symbolizing him in this way, will not in any way bring peace or prosperity to the United States. Instead, all it does is unnecessarily raise tensions. I said it once and I'll say it again: We are unequipped to live life like that of the European Union. Giving Trump a mug shot and celebrating over it, will do nothing for the US.

    This is a case in which we should be laying low. The criminal process, if it's to proceed should proceed without fanfare. Indeed, the prolonged trial dates actually favor the US. It will be better for us for Trump to lose the election and then get convicted for his crimes, then for Trump to be a martyr during the election.

    I care for my country as a nationalist, far more than a 'normal trial'. The country can live with an abnormal trial, it cannot live with a fissure line.
     
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    Yea and that go after quckly get shutdown by a higher court. This is a lowly county prosecutor going after a presidential candidate over trumped up charges outside their jurisdiction state and federal.

    Again this is not a court but an lowly elected county politician. There are over 3000 counties in the United States and if every local yokel prosecutor decides they want to make a name for themselves nd go after Presidents on what is a federal matter the country well fall into political chaos.

    Meadows has filed to take it federal. Some of the lawyers maybe waiting to see in the governor, as some in the state legislature are petitioning for, calls special session to remove Fanni or request the AG to take over the case or the court remand it to state court.


    He should never have made the call, if a petition to the SecState at all it shoukd have been by his legal team but that is not Trump he is used to dealing first hand with his affairs. There is NOTHING illegal in the phone call or the alternate electors. Stupid, dumb, wrong are not illegal. When his opponents try to create something they misrepresent it and the law.

    The fact is the basis of these charges could be apply to Biden, Hillary, Gore and a LONG list of other politicians so if your are going to use these novel and stretched legal theories against Trump for the novel and stretched legal theories he attempted then you have to apply the same to others.
     
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    You got it backwards it's not whether Trump is above the law but whether he is below it and everyone else above it.
     
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    You can think that all you want.

    You're wrong, but you are free to your own opinions.

    If Trump were just a regular Joe he'd be sitting in a jail cell somewhere
     
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    No prosecutorial decision should ever be made on whether or not it brings "peace or prosperity to the United States". A prosecution should be brought for one reason only, there is sufficient evidence to show that the defendant committed a crime.

    There is MORE than sufficient evidence to show that Trump and Co. committed a crime. Any talk about him being "too important" or the case is "too divisive" are just attempts to distract from the core issue. Is Trump guilty of a committing a crime?
     
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    And he still kicks Biden's ass in the pols. How can that be?
     
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    More and more, I think your fears will prove to be unfounded. Trump is losing support - his calls for protests with each indictment have fallen on mostly deaf ears. I'm even seeing previously staunch supporters here at PF back away slowly. Fear not. Trump's legal woes are proving that the American system of justice is the same for all citizens.

    And for those aching for Biden to meet the same level of justice, be patient. If there is ample evidence, which has been stated here many times, he will face the music when he leaves office. We were patient so I encourage you to do the same.
     
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    We definitely watch different programs. It's not so much that I love Trump as being amazed at how the more he's 'prosecuted' the stronger he seems to get.
     
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    I don't think Trump being guilty of committing a crime is the 'core issue'. The core issue is what to do about it. And what's to be done is to administer justice in the least back breaking way possible.

    I say take the defense up on their offer, wait until 2025 and if Trump loses, Trump won't have any excuses left.
     
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    AJ using polls from earlier this month and even last month. LOL. Here is the most up to date:

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    AHHHHHH.... Do not let your children (or your state election certificates) near this man

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    Will do more good than harm, so.... there's no harm...
     
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    The purpose of the mugshot serves none when the person is well-known, like Trump is.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot
    I'm sure there are plenty of public photographs of Trump available should they ever need one. I can't imagine why it would be. This is strictly a political move. One that will fit quite well in a campaign ad for Democrats.
     
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    :roflol:
    Premise is BS Polling not worth the keystrokes meant to generate it...
    Totally ridiculous BS geared to people looking for misguided confirmation bias.:bored:
    (Btw--Is there a link to that screenshot?)
    Here is the REAL Story:
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html
    The Yahoo Poll (Biden +6) is as RECENT as the BS Premise Polls that you cited.
    (Granted, polls essentially mean nothing at this point. But, if people are going to make false claims about polling (such as "he still kicks Biden's ass in the pols") it deserves a response.)
     
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