Flashback: FDR unveiled Robert E. Lee statue without controversy in 1936

A clever attempt but it's not going to work Trump went birther because he knew his supporters would like it. The Democrats actually dropped the birther thing and Hillary Clinton fired the aid that started it so you're living in a pretend world again

 

What's really strange (well, not really) is your piss poor skills at research -- it would take anyone about 10 seconds to look up that quote, but Appy? A bridge too far. LOL

http://leefamilyarchive.org/papers/letters/transcripts-UVA/v076.html

 

Gramps, and so many like him, live in Alternative Realityville.

 

And the Confederate Army of West Tennessee was comprised of primarily of Tennesseans.

They even had their own battle flag.


Van Dorn's battleflag


LOLOLOLOL

 

Hey, genio, the Army of Northern Virginia comprised nearly all the confederate army, it was the confed's primary military force and was populated by troops of near all the CSA.

And the Confederate Army of West Tennessee was around for a grand whopping three months, and fought primarily one battle: Corinth.

How do such basic historical facts elude you?

 

One yuge problem with your link, there were no typewriters back then and Robert E. Leer never owned a typewriter.

All of Lee's letters I have access too are written in cursive.

Using the internet to study history isn't very smart especially with so much revisionist history out there.

About six years ago Wikipedia officially adopted revisionist history.

Google "Philippine Insurrection" and go to Wikipedia and they changed the name of that war in the name of political correctness too "Philippine–American War."

I **** you not...-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine–American_War

Now go to any library and every book that was published before 2010 calls the war the "Philippine Insurrection" not the "Philippine-American War."

Re: Civil War;

Newspapers published in the North (1861-1865) called the war "The Great Rebellion" in the South newspapers called it a war.

The winners of any war get to write the history of those wars. The South won one thing on writing the history of the "Great Rebellion"...it's now called the "American Civil War."

During the early 1960's the radical left in America got their marching orders from the Kremlin, adopt cultural-marxist revisionist history and start rewriting America's history. The first agenda by the Marxist revisionist historians was to rewrite the history of the American Civil War.

Pick up history books on the Civil War published before 1960 and compare what you read in books published after 1960.

Be really careful of reading any history books, what your reading is one persons opinions.

Any time I read where the historian opines that sends up a red flag for me.

There's an excellent book on Robert E. Lee that I actually did some research for the author, Elizabeth Pryor who's not a real historian. I have access to the Huntington Library where some of Robert E. Lee's letters are kept. When Ms. Pryor book was published about nine years ago
"Reading the Man: A Portrait of Robert E. Lee Through His Private Letters" I noticed she opines through out the book.

Then a red flag appeared. In one letter that Robert E. Lee wrote I noticed that's not what Robert E. Lee actually wrote. I looked at my photo copy of the real letter and Ms. Pryor edited the letter. Why would she do that ???

But still an excellent book even with all of the opining and who knows how many other letters were edited.

 

I **** you not, I literally wet myself laughing at this post.

Appy, the happy flappy pappy, thinks because the Lee Family Papers Trust transcribed Lee's letters in fonts for viewing on the internet -- Lee din't rite (sic) it.




Are we having fun yet? It's like watching a gump carnival. LOLOLOOL

 

The Army of West Tennessee would become part of the Army of the Trans-Mississippi.

They also had their own battle flag.



When other states armies, division or regiments came under the command of another army command the word "provisional" was used. Still used today in the American military.

Brig. General George Custer commanded the 7th Michigan Cavalry at the battle at Gettysburg

 

LOL

Another analogy, after that last mess: It's like watching a guy in a swimming pool near drowning, treading for water and looking for any stick to grab onto.

 

Best and most chuckle-worthy line from the thread...

by Appy:

"There was no Confederate Army..."


LOLOLOL gawd, that guy is the best unintended comedian.

 

In fact they were called the Democratic Party, formed in 1792, and not the Conservative Party. Know your history.

 

I know my history, Dobby. A hell of a lot more than you do.

Your video is kilt, inoperative -- and stupid, just by its title.

Southern democrats were steadfast conservatives. To deny this is to deny all reality.

 

The Armies of the Confederate States in the Civil War

The permanent Constitution of the Confederate States of America provided that the President should be commander-in-chief of the army and navy, and of the militia of the several States when called into actual service. Accordingly, in any consideration of the Confederate army, the part played by President Davis must be borne in mind; also the fact that he previously had seen service in the United States army and that he had been Secretary of War of the United States. As Secretaries of War in the Confederate States Government there were associated with President Davis, the following: LeRoy Pope Walker, of Alabama, February 21, 1861, to September 17, 1861 ; Judah P. Benjamin, of Louisiana, September 17, 1861, to March 17, 1862; George W. Randolph, of Virginia, March 17, 1862, to November 17, 1862; Major-General Gustavus W. Smith, of Kentucky, November 17, 1862, to November 21, 1862 ; James A. Seddon, of Virginia, from November 21, 1862, to February 6, 1865 ; and Major-General John C. Breckinridge, of Kentucky, February 6, 1865, to the close of the war. Unlike the Union army there were generals, both regular and of the provisional army, as well as lieutenant-generals ; it being the intention that every commander of an army should rank as general, and every commander of a corps should rank as lieutenant-general. Such was the case with the generals mentioned in the biographical matter following in connection with the various armies and other organizations. An exception to this statement was General Samuel Cooper, who served at Richmond as adjutant and inspector-general.
General Samuel Cooper (U. S. M. A. 1815) was born in Hackensack, New Jersey, June 12, 1798, and served in the army, receiving the brevet of colonel for his services in the Mexican War. He resigned in March, 1861, to enter the service of the Confederacy. He was appointed gene but, owing to his age, took no active part in the field. He was adjutant and inspector-general of the Confederate States army throughout the entire war, performing his duties with great thoroughness and ability. He died at Cameron, Virginia, December 3, 1876.

Army of the Shenandoah
Army of the Peninsula
Army of the Northwest
Army of the Potomac
Army of Northern Virginia
Army of the Kanawha
Army of Eastern Kentucky
Army of New Mexico
Army of Louisiana
Army of Pensacola
Army of Mobile
Central Army of Kentucky
Army of East Tennessee-Army of Kentucky
Army of the Mississippi
Army of Tennessee
Army of Middle Tennessee
Missouri State Guard
Army of the West
Army of West Tennessee-Army of Mississippi
Southern Army - Trans-Mississippi Army
Army of Missouri
Army of Mississippi

Now there was only one CSA Navy and one CSA Marine Corps.

 

'lected twice



by Democrats. Chomp on it, baby.

 

Are you sure that Putin wasn't involved in putting Obama into the White House ?

As James Comey testified under oath in front of Congress, he said that the Russians meddled in America's elections in the past just not in 2016.

I think he was referring to 2008 and you can bet Putin was supporting Obama's reelection in 2012 100% because Obama gave Putin everything he wanted with nothing in exchange from 2009 to 2012.

 

More LOL's over and over.


A lot of those troops merged in the Army of Northern Virginia -- and some don't even count. Some fought for a few months, Kentucky wasn't even a confederate state.

Yes, there were some state troops, but even the wiki cite you gobbled that from says the main & primary fighting force was the CSA "Army of Northern Virginia" - which was comprised of most all CSA states. Everyone knows these basic facts. Why don't you?

 

What's even more juicier : Appy replies in rebuttal to his ridiculous assertion: "There was no Confederate Army"

With a citation...of the Confederate Army.

At what point do people say, er, crazy uncle in attic, extra bacon?

 

Holy crap all those freaking armies and the losers still lost

 

i have on kindle details of the Gettysburg battles. It tells a lot about what went on and why. Clifford Dowdey on Lee and his men at Gettysburg.



We kids, in the 1940s, early 50s never got encouragement from teachers to learn much about that war. We were told it was over slaves and not much more. But I have to also blame republicans who should have corrected history at that time. We were under the spell of FDR and then Truman. Ike was my president in High school.

 

But both Kentucky and Missouri are represented in the Confederate battle flag. That's why there's 13 stars on the flag.


Enlisting In A Civil War Army

Hardly had the "Three months men" reached the field before it was discovered that a mistake had been made in not calling out a larger number of troops, and for longer service -- it took a long time to realize what a gigantic rebellion we had on our hands. So on the 3d of May President Lincoln issued a call for United States volunteers to serve three years, unless sooner discharged. At once thousands of loyal men sprang to arms so large a number, in fact, that many regiments raised were refused until later.
The methods by which these regiments were raised were various. In 1861 a common way was for some one who had been in the regular army, or perhaps who had been prominent in the militia, to take the initiative and circulate an enlistment paper for signatures. His chances were pretty good for obtaining a commission as its captain, for his active interest, and men who had been prominent in assisting him, if they were popular, would secure the lieutenancies. On the return of the "Three mouths" troops many of the companies immediately re-enlisted in a body for three years, sometimes under their old officers. A large number of these short-term veterans, through influence at the various State capitals, secured commissions in new regiments that were organizing. In country towns too small to furnish a company, the men would post off to a neighboring town or city, and there enlist.
In 1862, men who had seen a years active service were selected to receive a part of the commissions issued to new organizations, and should in justice have received all within the bestowal of governors. But the recruiting of troops soon resolved itself into individual enlistments or this program; -- twenty, thirty, fifty or more men would go in a body to some recruiting station, and signify their readiness to enlist in a certain regiment provided a certain specified member of their number should be commissioned captain. Sometimes they would compromise, if the outlook was not promising, and take a lieutenancy, but equally often it was necessary to accept their terns, or count them out. In the rivalry for men to fill up regiments, the result often was officers who were diamonds in the rough, but liberally intermingled with veritable clod-hoppers whom a brief experience in active service soon sent to the rear.
This year the War Department was working on a more systematic basis, and when a call was made for additional troops each State was immediately assigned its quota, and with marked promptness each city and town was informed by the State authorities how many men it was to furnish under that call. The war fever was not at such a fervid heat in '62 as in the year before, and so recruiting offices were multiplied in cities and large towns. These offices were of two kinds, viz. those which were opened to secure recruits for regiments and batteries already in the field, and those which solicited enlistments in new organizations. Unquestionably, at this time the latter were more popular.
The former office was presided over by a line officer directly from the front, attended by one or two subordinates, all of whom had smelled powder. The latter office might be in charge of an experienced soldier recently commissioned, or of a man ambitious for such preferment.
The flaming advertisements with which the newspapers of the day teemed, and the posters pasted on the bill-boards or the country fence, were the decoys which brought patronage to these fishers of men. Here is a sample:--

Here is a call to a war meeting held out-of-doors --

Here are two which look quite business-like -

continue -> http://www.civilwarhome.com/enlisting.html

 

Yes, many living in the South fought hard to stay free. But Abe invaded. Took that sumbritch 4 long years to do it too.

 

That is a meaningless term when discussing the civil war.

 

The Union had more armies than the South.

You had the regular U.S. Army and you had even more individual states and volunteer armies in the North.

As I pointed out above in another post, Brig. Gen. George Custer was a West Point graduate and a commissioned officer in the U.S. Army but was awarded a brevet Brig. Gen. commission in the Michigan Cavalry.

 

Custer was not very swift to be kind to the young guy.

 

yup he spent most of his time trying to find a general worth a damn