Florida COVID update: State surpasses 4 million cases and breaks single-day case record (47K cases)

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Then my question to you;

    Are the Flu and Covid’s number of Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths comparable if the medical conditions of every infected people are unknown?

    In other words, how many of your Republican brothers and sisters have compared Covid and Flu statistics, and their severities since the beginning of the Pandemic?

    AND how many times you’ve told them that their Flu/Covid comparisons were obsolete without knowing the medical conditions of every infected individual?

    Go ahead, start moving your goalposts.
     
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    Attention Republicans; Effective immediately, all State’s Covid statistics, such as number of Cases, Hospitalizations, Deaths and their rates/percentages are incomparable/meaningless without knowing the medical conditions of every infected individual.

    Says who?

    Your Republican Brother AFM
     
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    Who's AFM?
     
  4. nopartisanbull

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    A Republican, and that’s all I know.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Speculation at what the true number is. Not speculation that the true number isn't being reported. We know we're not being given exact figures by the state.
     
  6. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seasonal influenza is a serious risk to all age groups. That is NOT the case with Covid.
     
  7. nopartisanbull

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    Prove it!
     
  8. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Google;

    Number of deaths due to influenza by age group during_______flu season in the United States by age group

    And then, compare to Covid’s number of deaths by age group

    Also, compare Flu and Covid Case Fatality Rates by age group
     
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    CDC.....Estimated Burden of Seasonal Flu in the U.S. 2017-2018

    Note: Worst Flu Season, last 10 years

    0 - 4 yrs...........110 deaths, Hospitalizations; 23,750
    5 - 17 yrs..........416 deaths, Hosp; 19,636

    Hospitalizations and deaths.........Number of cases/infections meaningless
     
  10. AFM

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    I have posted data summarized by both Dr. Charles Atlas and Alex Berenson.
     
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    For example take Sweden. Schools open, no mask requirements, no lockdown - covid deaths under 16 - zero.

    Atlas, Scott W.. A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America (p. 51). Bombardier Books. Kindle Edition.

    Atlas, Scott W.. A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America (pp. 50-51). Bombardier Books. Kindle Edition.
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah
     
  13. AFM

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    Yeah - Reposted data above.
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah
     
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    In the U.S.?
     
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    0 Sweden Covid deaths under 16?????????

    What about in the U.S.?

    Keep moving your goalposts
     
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    In the world.
     
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    Read my posts.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Wrong. It's not even close. In the US Covid, per year, has killed more people in every age range than flu has killed.
     
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    Source and data???
     
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    The latest data shows 14 (no information on preconditions given) out of ~ 15,000 deaths in Sweden.


    “That children only rarely transmit the infection to adults was verified in multiple contact tracing and other scientific studies, including independent data from more than a dozen countries in Europe, including a Swiss study showing that school was the source of only 0.3 percent of the infections. Moreover, teachers are not at higher risk of COVID-19 compared with other professions and do not have a significant risk of becoming infected from children in school, proven over a year ago. In one study that inspired harassment and threats to its author when it was eventually published in the NEJM, Sweden kept its schools open throughout their pandemic surge, without mask-wearing or social-distancing mandates. They experienced an extremely low incidence of significant COVID-19 and zero deaths in nearly 2 million school children ages one to sixteen. Sweden’s teachers showed no increase in age-adjusted risk of severe COVID-19. The European Centre for Disease Prevention reported a seventeen-country study and concluded that “[ open] schools were not associated with accelerating community transmission.””

    — A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America by Scott W. Atlas
    https://a.co/2g9hG6D
     
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  23. truth and justice

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    LOL you said zero.

    I've got an idea. Why don't you start quoting Covid deaths that occurred in 2019? They would be just as relevant as all your other claims

    Ps: hope you didn't buy that crappy book
     
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    The first wave and most important wave was zero. And there is no data showing preconditions which is essential to understanding sho is at risk. Plus there is no information to show whether these unfortunate kids were actually attending schools.

    one of the great tragedies of the coronavirus response in the United States is the closing of the schools.
     
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    Lol. Running away from your zero claim
     

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