Florida passed a new 6-week abortion ban

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by kazenatsu, Apr 14, 2023.

  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Lifestyle is NOT a triviality.

    Lifestyle does NOT mean "party time". It means life, and what is needed to sustain it.
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you saying conservative women don't have a life?

    Because I suspect conservative women will find a way of living on, mostly unimpeded; this law isn't going to change their life too much.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Please read my posts.

    I've been crystal clear that women have the decision making authority over their personal health care decisions.
     
  4. Curious Always

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    Conservative women don’t get abortions? Lol
     
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    WHAT !!!???
    NO
    UH, THIS is what he posted :
    """"Lifestyle is NOT a triviality.

    Lifestyle does NOT mean "party time". It means life, and what is needed to sustain it."""


    So your comment was another irrelevant, confused mixture of ...what? Nothing else to say???


    :roflol::roflol::roll::roflol::roflol: ...until they want an abortion...LOLOL....how ridiculous to think conservative women don't have abortions...
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FoxHastings, you'll be happy to hear that another state has also passed a 6 week abortion ban. But this state has decided to stick to their principles and not create an exception for rape.
    North Dakota.

    So I guess you can't complain about North Dakota now.
     
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    I'm sure YOU won't complain but

    I can't complain ?

    Yes, I can when barbarian misogynists strip away the rights of women away and turn them into nothing but broodstock (animals) .

    North Dakotans must really hate (fear) women if they want to punish them for being raped...what backward unintelligent pigs they must be.


    I bet they don't jail rapists but make women pay for being raped....are you happy?

    Happy that women must allow their rapist to see the product of the rape ?

    They aren't the hypocrits that Anti-Choicers are who think a fetus due to rape is different than a fetus due to consensual sex so only women who have consensual sex are punished ...but pretty much on the same low SICK twisted level of misogyny..


    HERE, YOU "MISSED" ;)
    kazenatsu:
    Because I suspect conservative women will find a way of living on, mostly unimpeded; this law isn't going to change their life too much."""""""


    FoxHastings:
    :roflol::roflol::roll::roflol::roflol: ...until they want an abortion...LOLOL....how ridiculous to think conservative women don't have abortions...

    Gee, I hope those conservative raped women don't mind having their rapist's kid :) :) :) :) :)
     
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  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I meant that you can't complain about North Dakota having an exception for rape.

    (since you were complaining about Florida having one)
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    I'm so sorry you always avoid complete posts but you should read posts before responding:

    I'm sure YOU won't complain but

    I can't complain ?

    Yes, I can when barbarian misogynists strip away the rights of women away and turn them into nothing but broodstock (animals) .

    North Dakotans must really hate (fear) women if they want to punish them for being raped...what backward unintelligent pigs they must be.


    I bet they don't jail rapists but make women pay for being raped....are you happy?

    Happy that women must allow their rapist to see the product of the rape ?

    They aren't the hypocrits that Anti-Choicers are who think a fetus due to rape is different than a fetus due to consensual sex so only women who have consensual sex are punished ...but pretty much on the same low SICK twisted level of misogyny..


    HERE, YOU "MISSED" ;)
    kazenatsu:
    Because I suspect conservative women will find a way of living on, mostly unimpeded; this law isn't going to change their life too much."""""""


    FoxHastings:
    :roflol::roflol::roll::roflol::roflol: ...until they want an abortion...LOLOL....how ridiculous to think conservative women don't have abortions...

    Gee, I hope those conservative raped women don't mind having their rapist's kid :) :) :) :) :)
     
  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't you think it's interesting that you get all riled up when no exception is allowed, but then if it is allowed you try to use that as some alleged example of pro-lifer hypocrisy?

    You realize you're arguing against your own argument, don't you?

    You're trying to put up two separate arguments against the pro-life side, but the two arguments are inconsistent with each other.

    If you think not allowing an exception is so extra bad, then it hardly makes sense for you to be complaining that pro-lifers are inconsistent or hypocritical for allowing that exception.
     
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  11. Bowerbird

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    And it has turned out to be as popular as pig poop
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64882712
     
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    And the men? What say any male that impregnates a woman against her will gets sterilised?
     
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    Except where things go wrong. This is where ALL those abortion laws fall to pieces. What happens when ultrasound finds the baby has no brain? What happens when the woman has a failed miscarriage that makes the pregnancy non viable? What happens when she develops HELLP syndrome before the foetus is viable?
     
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    Let’s start with so called “partial birth abortions” are illegal in the USA. Then look at Canada which has zero restrictions on abortion
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada-abortion-law-1.6503899

    Quote of the week

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    This is the natural timing of abortions

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/abortion-u-s-five-key-facts-n889111
     
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  15. Curious Always

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    100% agree. If either the mother or child is in danger, doctors gotta do what doctors gotta do.
     
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    And the reason why these legislations do not have a “health and well-being” exemption is that someone has done their homework. My state had NASTY anti abortion laws as part of the criminal code of the state but they were useless and unenforceable. The reasons was the health and well being clause. Who gets to decide what health impacts are acceptable? Take perinatal depression - a very very real and often life threatening condition https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/perinatal-depression
    But without examining all the woman’s medical history how do you prove she was suffering from it or not? Basically it ended up with all the woman had to do was claim she was feeling depressed. Same thing happened in the UK from what I can gather. The were actually anti abortion laws on the books but again useless due to medical privacy and the inclusion of the health and well being clause

    of course some of the reason health clauses are not included is sheer fluffing ignorance. Many so called “pro-life” people have these misconceptions that every pregnancy is perfect resulting in perfect little Gerber babies
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    No, I was showing the total and complete hypocrisy of Anti-Choicers who backed exceptions for rape long before this.




    :) And YOU don't realize how Anti-Choicers were arguing against their own argument....and I pointed it out .




    No, wrong yet again
    ...there's no "separate argument"....there's no argument at all....the Anti-Choice position that makes an exception for rape is hypocritical.




    Wrong yet again ....I never said making an exception for rape is "extra bad" .... I said it's hypocritical.

    Wrong yet again...I am not complaining I'm pointing out their obvious hypocrisy .... and the FACT that making an exception for rape clearly shows they want to punish women who have consensual sex
     
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    If she chooses to have sex with him that is not against her will. If you're talking about rapist, sure...
     
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    He also chose to have sex - why does he get a free pass? Tell you what though how about, just to make things equal we deliberately infect him with a nice long lasting STD? something like Chlamydia
     
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    Take it up with the creator. Oddly enough, you might now be able to see the difference between a genuine woman and a fake one.

    Your last crazy idea could land you in prison if proven you did that on purpose. A wise man doesn't sleep with whatever lies down.
     
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    :) wise men are in short supply
     
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    Interesting column by Ann Coulter on these state-wide anti-abortion initiatives...they're losers.

    THE NEW BABY-KILLERS
     
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    Isn’t Coulter considered a RINO, now, since she spoke against Trump?
     
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    No. Or at least, I've never heard that she was called a RINO.

    Her explanation is that Trump didn't do what he promised to do in his 2016 campaign, and in fact he did very little of it. She thinks that a more competent Trump (in other words not Trump) could have. But I think she's wrong on that. McConnell and Ryan were never going to support Trump's agenda, no matter how competent Trump might have been.

    Ironically, Coulter is one of those who think that the 19th Amendment was a mistake, and she actually proves the point. Coulter has crushes on candidates (remember when she fangirled over Chris Christie?) then gets disappointed in them and turns against them, just as she did Trump.

    It kind of explains why a traditionalist such as herself never married.

    But as far as her article goes, I think she's basically correct. The Dobbs decision should have been the victory the Republicans wanted on abortion, but the pro-life factions wouldn't leave it alone, and are now threatening every electoral Republican gain, including in Florida.
     
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    Disgusting. The Republicans basically want to go Handmaiden’s Tail. Blech.
     

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