Florida proposes solution to supply chain crunch

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    Do you have a scientific reference for your statement against hydroxychloroquine? Or are you "pulling a CNN" and just proffering propaganda?
     
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    Imports from China are up 25% over pre-pandemic levels. Why? Because Americans are shifting consumption from "places with faces" (restaurants, bars, clubs, gyms, travel...) to goods made overseas. We need to get virus numbers under better control if we want to save a big chunk of our economy, unless you have some way of convincing people to either get the jab or stop worrying about catching or spreading covid.

    The longer this goes on, the harder it's going to be to prevent the destruction of service businesses, and then when the virus does go away it will be costly to restore the service businesses we'll have lost.
     
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    That only applies to the blue states where China Virus Tyranny reigns. Here in East Texas we have no China Virus constraints, although you can wear a mask if you want, stay home if you want, and pull your kids out of school if you want. I actually have seen a mask or two in the past few months... but I don't remember exactly where. Our stores and shops are open and have been, as are our beaches, our malls, our restaurants and our schools. Our kids play in the sun and we have parties. All our "places with faces" are open and thriving. GOD BLESS GOVERNOR ABBOTT FOR SHIELDING US AGAINST THE BLUE STATE CHINA VIRUS TYRANNY!
     
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    A study conclusion:

    "Our study shows that cynomolgus macaques are a relevant model for the analysis of the early stages of SARS-Cov-2 infection in humans. We found no antiviral activity nor clinical efficacy of HCQ treatment, regardless of the timing of treatment initiation, either before infection, early after infection (before the peak of the viral load) or late after infection (after the peak of the viral load). This was in spite of high HCQ concentrations in the blood and lungs, and plasma exposures that were similar to those observed in patients with COVID-19 treated who were with HCQ. Thus, treatment with HCQ is unlikely to have antiviral activity in respiratory compartments. Our results illustrate the frequent discrepancy between results from in vitro assays and in vivo experiments, as reported for other viral infections such as influenza, dengue or chikungunya virus, for which clinical trials did not demonstrate efficacy of chloroquine or HCQ for the treatment of these infections.

    In conclusion, our evaluation of HCQ in the NHP model does not support its use as an antiviral agent for the treatment of COVID-19 in humans."

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2558-4.pdf
     
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    Thank you. Although our belief systems are quite dissimilar, you are the first Democrat that actually offered proof of what he said when I asked for it... and I cannot help but you respect that. Again, thank you.
     
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    No, it applies to the entire country, including Texas:
    • "Ninety percent of the owners said sales dropped between March 23 and April 6 compared to the previous year while 7% weren’t in business a year ago. Only 3% reported higher sales
    • More than half of owners said it will take their businesses nine months or longer to recover, and 3% percent said they don’t expect to ever recover.
    • Eighty percent of owners have laid off at least some employees, and 86% have cut worker hours.
    • Forty-one percent of the owners have temporarily closed one or more of their restaurants while 19% have permanently closed one or more locations.
    • Restaurants that remain in business have pivoted to take-out and delivery – just 38% offered take-out before the pandemic, with even fewer offering delivery – and 25% now offer bulk food sales."
    https://uh.edu/hobby/restaurants/

    And from the Texas Restaurant Association:
    • "72% of operators say their restaurant currently does not have enough employees to support its existing customer demand;
    • 91% of operators say their restaurant experienced a decline in customer demand for indoor on-premises dining in recent weeks because of the Delta variant; and
    • 89% of Texas operators say their profit margin is lower than it was prior to the COVID-19 outbreak."
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-data-confirms-that-texas-restaurants-are-still-in-a-precarious-position-with-recovery-reversing-for-many-301389372.html
    Just because you want something to be true, it doesn't mean it is. Ignoring covid doesn't seem to work.
    He's fending off Trumper primary challenges from the like of Allen West.
     
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    • "72% of operators say their restaurant currently does not have enough employees to support its existing customer demand;... YUP! They have so much business they can't hire staf fast enough to keep up!
    • 91% of operators say their restaurant experienced a decline in customer demand for indoor on-premises dining in recent weeks because of the Delta variant; YUP! in-and-out fast service allows ten customers in the time it used to take to service one! right on! (part of the reason they need more staff)
    • 89% of Texas operators say their profit margin is lower than it was prior to the COVID-19 outbreak." YUP! Texas restaurants can lower prices due to the HUGE demand outlined above!
    The best way to guarantee your stats about Texas are BS is to dilute them with the tyrannical blue states wher masks are required (NOT IN TEXAS!), where businesses are being closed by tyrannical blue state China Virus "mandates" (NOT IN TEXAS!), where schools have been closed (NOT IN TEXAS!), and where blue citizens shake in fear under their beds about the China Virus! (NOT IN TEXAS!)
     
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    Allen West? lol... LOL... LOLOL.... ROFLMAO!
     
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    Your record in intact--I'm not a Democrat.
     
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    I'm not impressed by the guy, but Abbott is tacking to the right to fend off Republican challengers.
     
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    Hello? I quoted the Texas Restaurant Association. They claim business is DOWN. Why down? Because a portion of the electorate avoid "places with faces" when the virus is circulating.

    Vaccines and vaccine passports--the way out of this mess.
     
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    I LIVE in Texas. You rarely see anyone in a mask outside of a hospital. Restaurants are overflowing. Every one has crowds waiting to get in. Malls are packed with shoppers as are stores and shops. Beaches are crowded too. But hey, believe what you want. If you knew the TRUTH you'd move here to escape the Blue State China Virus Tyranny. But believe those media stats... be sure you don't move here... nothing special here at all.... you'd hate it here... so don't come.
     
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    Abbott has no viable challenger. He protected us from the Blue State China Virus Tyranny by outlawing things like mask mandates and vax passports. He outlawed the racist Critical Race Theory indoctrination program in our schools. He kept our schools open as blue states closed them. He made sure our businesses, large and small, could stay open during all the "pandemic" scare in blue states. He brought our National Guard home from the DC fiasco while other states were afraid to. He is protecting our border while Biden negligently refuses to do so. He signed "Constitutional Carry" into law, allowing both open and concealed weapons carry almost anywhere. Parts of that law included some great other things like exempting the sale of silencers built in Texas from federal regulation. He signed into law some common sense voting regulations (like voterID) that will preclude future elements of potential voter fraud. He signed into law an effective abortion law (I have no stake in that, but it shows he's doing what the voters elected him to do). With a continuing record like that. no one can beat Abbott or his chosen successor.
     
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    So, you figure the Texas Restaurant Association made it up? Really?
    i believe the numbers, not anecdotal observations. But then I ran a business.
    i told you before I decided to hang out in British Columbia where schools have been open all year, every day, and never a lockdown. BC has about 40 covid deaths per 100,000 while Texas has 239 per 100,000, six times the number in BC. Texas has 69,506 covid deaths. If Texas had done as well as BC, you'd have had fewer than 12,000.
    I don't care for the climate in Texas, so it wouldn't matter even if your state's politics wasn't so screwed up.

    You're ignoring evidence that clearly rebuts your views. I don't think you're prepared to deal with the truth of the negative economic impact of covid that happens even if government pulls all covid mitigation measures.
     
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    Why do you claim that given that Donald Trump was vaccinated and urged others to get vaccinated?
     
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    We have no "COVID mitigation measures" here in Texas by Abbott's decree and our businesses are thriving, restaurants are crowded, beaches are full... even our cruise ships are at capacity since Abbott outlawed all China Virus "passport" efforts. If companies here try to force their employees to get vaxxed... they are fined. Its all about CHOICE (spell that F-R-E-E-D-O-M) here in Texas. Watching all the restrictions in blue states we are amazed. We cannot even conceive of such craziness here. Last summer we watched blue cities burn from the jacuzzi with a nice Merlot. Now we watch the crazy restrictions. As our schools remained open and blue schools closed, we prepared to have our kids become doctors and astronauts while blue state kids struggled to read.

    By the way, you're in Canada, I'm in Texas. Stay there in the frozen north and keep thinking you have a clue about Texas. It's amusing.
     
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    How many Texans have gotten seriously ill or died of covid who could have been saved from illness by reasonable public health measures like they've had in British Columbia? How much will Texas have to pay in extra health care costs over the years for long-haulers?
    It wasn't being taught.
    British Columbia schools have been open.
    By not modifying the operation of some "places with faces"--bars, restaurants, pubs--Texas is keeping the pandemic going with all the negative impacts on the greater Texas economy.
    I think he should go after employers hiring illegals, too.
    Not enough to counter his other misjudgments when gun rights have been extended in other states.

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    I'm not impressed by the overall effort on voting. No, I don't mind voter IDs.
    As pro-choice, I think he helped women secure their abortion rights by going too far. He's doing what irritates me about liberals--justifying their actions as a means to an end.
    He may be vulnerable.
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    https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-pol...rating-half-of-texans-disapprove-of-his-work/
     
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    KXAN? From the home of left wing radical politics in the Lone Star State> Austin is the San Francisco of Texas. I would expect any news source from the "Commie Capital" to disparage Abbott. He really p's off libs.

    Texas has no China Virus Tyranny restrictions and is 23d in America in China Virus deaths.... pretty much average... right in the middle of the pack.

    I have no stake in the abortion issue, but Abbott does what the voters want.

    Does British Columbia have indoor plumbing yet? If so, does it freeze often?
     
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    In 14 months COVID killed more Americans than we lost in the whole 4 years of WWII. I have magazines (Esquire) from WWII. We talked and wrote about little else during it.

    Because he did
    eseret.com/2021/4/23/22399234/former-president-donald-trump-americans-coronavirus-vaccine-obama-bush-clinton-carter
     
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    Trump made the vaccines possible. Rushed development through the traditional red tape.
     
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    Chima VIRUS is nothing compared to Small Pox. I got my small pox shot and never broke stride going to school, going shopping, hanging out at the mall, going to the beach, etc.
     
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    The vaccines were in development before Trump rushed them. He may have cut some red tape but he made nothing possible
     
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    And the vast, VAST majority of people have done the same or even better with COVID.
     
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