Fmr AG Barr: ‘I Haven’t Seen Anything that Makes Me Think the President Committed a Crime’

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  1. grapeape

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    The j6 commission has some pretty damning evidence. But I have no doubt that the right in this country will willfully ignore it claiming political bias, even with irrefutable proof ;)
     
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    it's Kabuki theater. Polling shows that the folks are more concerned about the economy. The Democrat party and complicit media needs to go all-in with the Kabuki Theater. It's all that they have in hopes of retaining full Democrat control. It won't work and given the train wreck that has happened, they can't even fake votes this time around as it wouldn't even be plausible that the majority want more of this train wreck.
     
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    That’s right. The Republicans are allotted 5 members of our choice. To say that no pro Trump Republican is allowed to redirect and cross examined and to subpoena witnesses is proof positive of the bias of the committee and why republicans in the general population can simply dismiss and disregard the committee and its findings as irrelevant
     
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    Guess we’ll see

    But regardless, it is pretty obvious that the Big Lie was a Big Lie, and even Trump knew it was a Big Lie
     
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    The question remains. Was telling a big lie criminal?
     
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    No one said this is going to be a big election factor in 2024, in fact, was never meant to be such, rather getting to the details surrounding the events up to and including the events of January 6th

    However, if will play in 2024 when Trump runs again
     
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    criminal, no, if it were, based upon the lies Trump told, he’d be residing in Atlanta

    However, if it is established Trump knew it was a Big Lie, which is the pattern the Committee is proving, it means he employed the Big Lie he himself didn’t believe to stop the legal transfer of power, and that might be a crime
     
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    I can just hear the wind leaving sails
     
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    And two of those Republicans were under investigation

    Bogus claim, Mitch and Paul never wanted an investigation, Pelosi bent over backwards meeting all their demands, even giving them the unprecedented right to subpoena any witness they wanted, and both turned it down. If there they are lacking the Republicans of their choice that is all on them
     
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    There is no indication that Trump attempted to stop the legal transfer of power.
     
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    No. To call Jim Jordan "biased" is the understatement of the century. He is beyond disruptive and is beyond dishonest.

    But you leave out the most important reason he isn't on the committee, is that he is implicated in much of what happened on J6. His name keeps popping up more and more all the time as this gets investigated. TBH, most of congress knows exactly what happened, why it happened and who did what/when/where on J6. They are just bringing that proof to light as the J6 committee gets the facts and proof needed to inform the American Public. THAT is why JJ is not on the committee

    You call this "Partisan" yet everything they have released has been proven with evidence. Most of it not illegal, but very damning politically for the right. And FTR, if they succeeded in overturning a free and fair election would you then accept that they were wrong ? Because from what we see comming out of this investigation is that it was much closer than most people think, and there were many more people involved in this than was publicly known. Personally, I believe this is very bad politically for many republicans who, although unsuccessful, were willing to subvert democracy AND the constitution to install Trump.
     
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    it is purely political and Trump won't be running. Your Democrat party is wasting their time focused on Trump. Give it up already. The economy is tanked and people are hurting and the folks for whom you voted, are wasting time and money instead of getting Biden to kill his energy destroying executive orders.

    For once let's see the Democrat party do something that is good for the folks
     
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    Don't know what would or would not be criminal But as Barr says per you OP, “But, you know, I think it’s legitimate to explore whether or not there was a plan to use violence to stop the vote,” Barr continued.

    ...

    trump:
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    So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.
    Full transcript: Trump's audio call with Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger - CNNPolitics
     
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    The state of Georgia is looking into possible charges against Trump for his interference also. Should he escape all that, he still has the libel suites against him and this committee has uncovered evidence that trump was informed there was no voter fraud.
     
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    Barr also stated Trump was out of touch with reality. :)

    https://www.axios.com/2022/06/13/bill-barr-trump-detached-reality-election-fraud
     
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    I believe he retired before 1/6/2021?
     
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    Let's not forget the context of Barr's statements. It's clear that Barr is no big fan of Trump but at the same time why should he lie, and join in with mob mentality to indict a president who is not guilty of a crime?

    CNN on Twitter: "Former Attorney General William Barr told Fox that he holds former President Donald Trump "largely responsible" for people going to the Capitol on January 6, but doesn't think Trump committed a crime. Watch here: https://t.co/PXlryL6wWq" / Twitter
     
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    You're right. Nothing will ever satisfy the TDS-obsessed. They still can't forgive his voters for beating their dear Hillary.
     
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    Incorrect that’s just the perspective the left claims just justify their irrational hatred of him.
     
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    The fact that Barr would say this is hugely significant, he doesn't believe in the conspiracy theories but he also points out it's clear Trump committed no crime.
     
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    WHERE is this evidence? WHAT is this evidence? WHICH irrefutable proof are you referring to?

    They've been looking for 2 years, what have they found? What do they expect to find? Just because Trump was told there was no voter fraud (or at least nothing significant) doesn't mean he believed it?

    We've had 6 years of politically motivated legal investigations against Trump and his family and they've got NOWHERE. Maybe the left should try to defeat the GOP by improving their policies rather than trying to find an excuse to imprison them?
     
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    The hate is so irrational, the media coverage of the kangaroo court is so over the top partisan... well, geeze, one would think Trump actually tried to assassinate a supreme court justice or something.
     
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    If telling big lies was criminal - pretty much every president the past 100 years should be in jail. Except maybe Carter
     
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    Good point. I don't remember Carter lying while he was in office but there you go, all the others would be locked up if their lying were a crime.
     
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    It's amazing how willingly the Democrats are to change their opinions of Barr now that he's testifying against Trump. When once they considered him to be a liar now he's a truth teller.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...eral-william-barr-lied-call-for-him-to-resign
     
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