Lets have a look at how treacherous the US Government has been to Israel! Obama's proposal includes $3.1 billion in general military aid for Israel, similar to 2013, plus a separate request for $220 million to finance the Iron Dome anti-rocket defense system. In 2013, funding for Iron Dome was not included in the president's original budget proposal, but $210 million was added later on by Congress. http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=8527 That has to be the most expensive act of treachery in history! And lets not forget the little anti-semitic slur made, Almost as many Jews live in the USA as live in Israel. In the US they live in peace and prosperity. How can an Israeli accuse the US government of being anti semitic and anti american? With friends like Israel who needs enemies?
I sum up my response by saying that you must have been out for a long time and thus I will take this into consideration. Here is the latest HAMAS performance bulletin. We caught 30 of these Ba----ds together with many Turks. Now they are being grilled, I hope they turn them all to shish Kabob. Israel's Thanksgiving : Massive HAMAS Terror Plot Exposed http://tinyurl.com/kgranw6
This is to be expected as long as Israel refuses to reach an agreement with the Palestinian Authority based upon the mutual respect for the territorial integrity and peace of both nations, that the Palestinian people can vote to accept. Until that happens Hamas will continue to wage a war of terrorism against Israel. The Palestinian Authority has offered to comply fully with the conditions of UNSC 242 that ensures peace and security between Israel and Palestine but Israel continues to refuse to even agree with it in principle. Until Israel gives the Palestinians a peace proposal they can vote on Hamas is going to continue to fight against Israel. Once the Palestinians vote to accept a peace accord with Israel then Hamas will respect the will of the Palestinian People. There is no way in hell that the Palestinians are ever going to accept giving away anymore land to Israel. Israel is going have to agree to withdraw from all of the Palestinian territory it occupied in 1967 in compliance with the peace proposal in UNSC 242. If Israel wants peace then it must accept the provisions of UNSC 242 because that's the only peace proposal the Palestinians are ever going to accept. If Israel accepts that then, based upon the approval of the Palestinian people, Hamas will also respect that agreement and the conflict will end. What part of that don't you understand?
Now is the time to change direction and deflect what you stated before... Then you have the unmitigated gall to compare us to the Nazis... you are really a bundle of joy... No... wait as long as I have your attention I will prove to you who is a Nazi and who is not... Go there. http://www.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/god-bless-hitler-300x217.jpg
Terrorism Against Israel: Comprehensive Listing of Fatalities since Oslo http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/victims.html Also : Arab Nazi cooperation http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/ On this site there is a Video that shows Hitler and Haj Amin al Husseini shaking hands... contrary to what Margot2 stated.
What "mutual respect for the territorial integrity and peace of both nations" ? Have you read "Palestinian Media Watch" ? http://www.palwatch.org/ The true goal of Fatah, Hamas and co. is not a "State", but the second Holocaust. Arafat and Abbas praised Hitler's Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini as "hero", "martyr" and "resistance foghter".
Pleae choose your words carefully ! I strongly dislike Frontpagemag on account of its Islamophobia, but it is run by a Jew and has some Jewish authors. Calling a Jew "Nazi" is anti-Semitic !
Do not pay attention to that poster for he writes only blurbs, he has nothing to offer on any subject but one sentence blasts of fowl air.
See _ "When the Zionist Movement Decided to agree a Trade Agreement with Nazi Germany " http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/zionist-collaboration-with-nazism.html Go read The Secret Alliance Zionism in the Age of the Dictators by LENNI BRENNER http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/24/zionism-in-the-age-of-the-dictators/ The Mufti was an incompetent reactionary who was driven into his anti-Semitism by the Zionists If the Mufti's collaboration with the dictators cannot be justified, it becomes absolutely impossible to rationa1ise the Haganah's offers to spy for the Nazis. Given the outcry against the Ha'avara and the servile posture of the ZVfD, it seems certain that, at the very least, a signiflcant minonty of the WZO would have voted with their feet had they known of the Haganah's subterranean betrayal. --- "Peepels vot lifs in ein glas haus must not tro der stones - WOT ? = tata
Really Thunderbolt, is this some new decree, a new law? To call a Jew a Nazi is anti-Semitic would that not be dependent on the actions of the Jew! How about saying Jews are acting like Nazi's as is clear by the actions of some Israelis. It might come as a surprise to you but some of us who have been fighting fascism and neo-nazis (literally fighting) all of our adult life might find being told who and who not can be called a Nazi by someone supporting an ideology behaving the way Israel is, just a little bit amusing. There are bad Jews just like there are bad people in every race, ethnicity and religion. It might also surprise you that it was not just Israelis who suffered at the hands of the Nazis, the British and Commonwealth stood alone, and Russia lost more people fighting Nazis than any other race. You think being Homosexual or a Communist or Polish or Slavic or Romany wasn't enough to get you dead in Nazi occupied Europe?
In the 1930's the Nazis used virtually every means possible to force the Jews out of Germany and that is exactly what the Zionists did to the Arabs in 1948. Today many Zionists would like to see the Arabs force out of Palestine completely often stating "there are 22 Arab countries" for them to live in" ignoring the fact that none of these countries are the homeland of the Palestinians. It's still about forcing people, based upon race/religion/ethnic heritage, from their homeland where they are born and live. This very thread is about Israel taking away the homeland of the Palestinians and of forcing them out and/or subjecting them to the tyrannical rule of the Israeli Zionists. There is no difference between the ethnic cleansing of Nazi Germany and the ethnic cleansing of the Zionist Israel regardless of one picture you posted that represents absolutely nothing. Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing regardless of how happens to be doing it. What Zionist Israel has done with the Arabs is no different than what Nazi Germany did with the Jews in 1930's or what Jordan did when it evicted the Jews after 1948. It's all the same. Every nation based upon race, religion, ethnic heritage, social/economic status or other invidious criteria that divides the people is the same.
no, the Nazis actually made it difficult for Jews to leave, by charging them large sums of money for an exit Visa.
So you provide us with a link where Mahmoud Al-Habbash, a long opponent of Israel, is apparently changing his stance by addressing Religious Aspects of the Israeli - Palestine conflict and the need for religious tolerance at the Ben Gurion University tomorrow?. Instead of this being disparaging of the promise for a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians it's very encouraging turn of events. Too bad Netanyahu and the Zionists don't see it that way. http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=13272
The Nazis were trying to squeeze every German mark out of the Jews. On the flip side the Zionists didn't charge the Arabs to leave "Israel" when it was founded. The Zionists just murdered them if they didn't leave their homes and flee as refugees in 1948.
had the partition plan been done, 400,000 Arabs would have remained in the Jewish state. after 1949, 200,000 remained.
I believe that history establishes the number of Arabs that fled in fear for their lives from "Israel" to be substantionally higher than what you claim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus This was of course absolutely "necessary" from the Zionist's perspective and they resorted to every means necessary, including terrorism and murder, to make this happen. As you note only about 200,000 Arabs remained in what became Israel and had the Zionist not resorted terrorism and murder the the roughly 630,000 Jews living in "Israel" would have been outnumbered by the Arabs living in the territory they claimed. The partition plan recommended by UNGA 181 was never submitted to a vote of the people living in Palestine and was never accepted. It is highly doubtful that the partition plan would have been accepted based upon the will of the people living in Palestine in 1948 and the Zionist revolution violated the sovereignty of the "Palestinians" that included Arabs, Jews, and other minorities living in the territory at the time. This is beyond any doubt from a historical standpoint. But the atrocities by the Zionists in 1948 are in the past today and we are more concerned with what has happened since then. There is no doubt today that the invasion of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan was simply a continuation of the overall plan of the Zionists to take over all of Palestine as a Jewish homeland (which the OP of this thread continues to advocate). The illegal (under international law) annexation of the Golan Heights and E Jerusalem by Israel and the illegal immigration of Israeli civilians into the West Bank are clear historical indicators that the goal in 1967 was really about forcing the Arabs out of their remaining land in Palestine. Israel never had any other purpose for invading Egypt, Syria, and Jordan except the acquistion of territory as that was always a part of the master plan of the Zionists going back to the end of WW I. The claims it was a pre-emptive war were nothing but propaganda to rationalize the "land grab" by the Zionists. We all know that to be a fact. Today there could be hope for peace between Israel and the Palestinians but that is not what the Zionists want. The Zionists want to continue the Israeli-Palestinian conflict until they can force all of the Arabs out of their homeland because that was always the master plan of the Zionists. Peace with the Palestinians is the last thing the Zionist want because it would end their nefarious ambitions to take over all of Palestine and eject the Arabs from their homeland. We all know that to be a fact.
The term "Nakhba" was cooked up to smear the Jews as "Nazis", because this word translated as "Shoah" to Hebrew. Using it is worse than denying the Holocaust. The reality was different http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html And what about some 800 000 Jewish refugees from the Middle East countries ? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/talking/jew_refugees.html Any sympathy for them ?
Even the Palestinian Media Watch stated: We don't know what Al-Habbash will actually state in addressing the issue of religious tolerance yet. Perhaps he's changed and perhaps he hasn't but in the end it doesn't matter. Like Hamas, Al-Habbash is also ultimately compelled to accept the will of the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people overwhelmingly want peace and their own homeland based upon the 1967 borders and are willing to go to great lengths to ensure that peace will prevail by allowing a neutral military force (e.g. NATO) to occupy a barrier between Israel and Palestine to ensure that peace.
What "Palestinians" ? Do you refer to Fatah, Hamas and co ? Well, since the signing of Oslo agreement they have murdered in cold blood some 2000 innocent Israeli (not only Jewish) men, women and children, i.e. some 0,025 of Israeli population. In the USA it would be 180 000. The "peace process" between America and Al Quaeda (started by Bin Laden on 9/11) claimed far less victims. What about a "peaceful State" for Al Quaeda, somewhere in California ? Let us see, what will happen to the rest of America a few years later ...
Arafat and Abbas praised Hitler's Grand Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini as "hero", "martyr" and "resistance fighter". Their goal is not a "State", but the second Holocaust
No, the Palestinian people are the people living in Palestine and not a political party. We can no more refer to the Palestinians as but Fatah or Hamas than we can refer to Americans as Democrats or Republicans. Israel never even attempted to implement the Oslo Agreement that would have required the ultimate creation of the Palestinian nation with the 1967 territorial borders based upon UNSC 242. Instead of that Israel continued the illegal immigration of Israeli citizens into the militarily occupied territories in violation of Article 49 of the Geneva Conventions. The death toll of Arabs and Israelis will continue to grow so long as Israel refuses to withdraw from the Palestinian territories it occupied in 1967 in compliance with the conditions established by UNSC Resolution 242. UNSC Resolution 242 has always been the means of establishing a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians. There is no other way that peace can be achieved.
There will NEVER be Peace between the Muslims and the Jews... because the hate against the Jews emanates from their Holly Book the Qur'an... Islam has to REFORM and until then nothing but hate and blood will flow. I am for Transfer... TRANSFER these fifth columnists to the North or the South pole perhaps they will turn to be Eskimos.
