For those who think the election doubters have no grounds-

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by spiritgide, Jan 14, 2024.

  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Haha.....so you didnt want to comment about your assumption that all qualified voters are registered? Oops. To read your response, one would get the idea that we are discussing some other topic, when in reality that is the SOLE topic. I dont know of the OP is correct or not, it is not my topic, but I DO know that your response is 100% unquestionably incorrect.

    You have ignored 30% of all qualified voters in your analysis. Explain your position.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you can quote me claiming that all qualified voters are registered, I will donate $10,000 to the charity of your choice. Today. No questions asked. You have ignored everything I actually wrote. Explain why you would prefer to make **** up instead of being honest.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I still don't get what you are failing to comprehend. Tell me what you can't understand and I will follow up.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which is EXACTLY why you refuse to explain yourself. As I said, explain your logic so that I can show you the error of your ways.

    You are trying to assert that there are more registrations than eligible voters which is why you do not see a problem with the claim in the OP. Show your math. You already promised to expalin yourself, but when called on it, you have done everything OTHER than explaining your position.

    If you are not assuming that all eligible voters are registered, than how could you make such a huge error in calculation?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets majke this simple for you.

    If we take the notion of there being more registered voters than those eligible to vote, why would that not be a problem in your mind?
     
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    I still don't even get what you are incapable of understanding. Please clarify.

    You keep jumping back and forth and can't even figure out what your position is. Are you claiming that there are more registered voters than eligible voters or more eligible voters than registered voters? You have flip-flopped multiple times on this.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Dead voters on the ROLLS =/= DEAD PEOPLE VOTING. Try rubbing those brain cells together.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes there are dead people on the roles. There is also 30% of eligible voters that do NOT register to vote. There are far less dead people on voter rolls than 30% of all eligible voters.

    Explain this discrepancy using your logic.
     
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    Nope. And it isn't a problem to anyone who can rub two braincells together.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes there are dead people on the roles. There is also 30% of eligible voters that do NOT register to vote. There are far less dead people on voter rolls than 30% of all eligible voters.

    Explain this discrepancy using your logic.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes people register to vote. And sometimes people die. I know these two facts are entirely new to you, by our own admission, but they are true!
     
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    Sometimes people register to vote. And sometimes people die. I know these two facts are entirely new to you, by our own admission, but they are true!
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.

    According to Pew, in 2010, there were an estimated 1.8 million dead people on the voter rolls nationwide.
    "A 2010 study by the Pew Center on the States found that 1 in 8 voter registrations in the U.S. — about 24 million records — was invalid or significantly inaccurate. It found that more than 1.8 million dead people were on the rolls and almost 3 million people were registered in more than one state."
    Why Voters Could Be Removed From The Rolls : NPR

    Hmmm... So you are claiming that 1.8 million dead people eclipse the 30% of eligible voters that do not register? Does that make sense to you?

    It wouldnt make sense even if we gave you all of the 24 million records that Pew says are invalid which goes far beyong the dead that you are referring to. The numbers dont add up for your position even if we give you all 24 million. It is not even close. The only question that remains is whether you will man up and admit your error, or will you just try to change the subject and bogusly pretend like you were not just proven wrong. If I were a betting man, Id say you will choose the latter.
     
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    Sore losers who can't handle the truth will persist in pissing and moaning, but even the most incorrigible Trumpbots still can't concoct credible evidence to challenge the certified 2020 vote in any state.
     
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    Yes, for some reason, people who died failed to alert the state registrar of voters that they died.

    :)


    Every so often, states do purges, but the process is far from perfect.

    So, what is the point of all this hoopla about dead people, what is being implied? Is spiritguide claiming this is evidence of fraud? I ask because it most certainly isn't.
     
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    Dead people don't vote. Something about being a stiff in a box makes voting difficult.
     
  17. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you actually read the context of what was being discussed, it was the other person creating hoopla regarding dead people on voter rolls. Not me.

    At any rate, if you want to know what someone else is claiming.....ask THEM.

    Why are you asking me?
     
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    Well the idea is some votes on their behalf.
     
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    That never amounts to much.
     
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    Judicial Watch...bwahahahahahaha.

    That's the same (non lawyer) idiot who told Trump that he could keep the documents he kept at Mar-a-Lago and now Trump is under indictment.
     
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    You can be sued for the hairstyle you choose too. That doesn't mean it's legitimate or will succeed. The left departed from legitimacy when TDS took over their brains and they went off the rails.
     
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    Well, there you have it. Judicial watch is basing their conclusion on estimates. Is it possible for counties to grow faster than the estimate?
     
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    Absolute proof you have there that Trump received far fewer votes than reported.
    Funny how the majority of proven cases of fraud have been against Trump voters.
     
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    You always assume these "fake" votes were for Biden - but court cases show that most of the voter fraud has been done by Republicans.
    Trump received far fewer votes than reported.
     
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    And official corrections are still being made:

    Election officials in Virginia’s Prince William County have acknowledged roughly 4,000 votes were misreported in former President Trump’s favor during the 2020 presidential election...

    A release from the county’s Office of Elections announced Trump incorrectly received 2,327 extra votes, while Biden was shorted 1,648 votes.
    [https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4409576-virginia-county-misreported-2020-votes/]
     
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