Fully Automatic Glock with a 100 round magazine. Should this be legal?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A good friend constructed his car. A dragster. Ed's car will terminate at 203 mph, do so in 6.6 seconds and has a 4 cylinder, 124 cu in. Mazda engine making 1200 horsepower.

    Guns can be made as easily.

    [video=youtube;UjLp53RTu_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjLp53RTu_c[/video]
     
  2. danielpalos

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    you are confusing natural rights, secured in State Constitutions, with militia service, well regulated.
     
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    No, CCW has nothing to do with the Militia, Regulated or Unregulated or otherwise.

    I do like my bowel movements well regulated though.....
     
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    Then, you must be referring to natural rights, which are secured in State Constitutions, not our Second Amendment.
     
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    the second amendment was intended and did recognize a natural right.
     
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    A natural, States' right?
     
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    have you ever read-and then understood-Cruikshank?
     
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    HEY Quit introducing logic into their equation, :wink:
    Good post and welcome aboard!
     
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    great point. Ohio is a good state for gun owners
     
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    The no fly list violates due process. Shall we bar anyone on a no fly list from owning a car? A moble terrorist is more dangerous than a a confined one. What other things can we prevent someone from owning because he's on a no fly list.

    A winter coat in the summer? Kinda suspicious if you ask me. Plus you can hide a rifle with a trench coat. So your point?
    Already happening.
     
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    [h=2]Fully Automatic Glock with a 100 round magazine. Should this be legal?[/h]
    NO! Only to police or military. Not civilians.
     
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    The same police that is being strutinized for brutality? The same military being in unecessary wars?
     
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    Yep. Those would be the ones. Not ALL cops are bad. And the military does not pick and choose which war to fight. They go where they are told to go. There is no reason civilians should have such weapons.
     
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    You do know the Police are Civilians, right ??? The Military is composed of personnel with no actual Civil Rights per say, that is why many types of Military prosecution is legal, yet not legal for non Military, ie Civilians.
     
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    It's also interesting to note that one of the only illegal uses of an automatic weapon in the US was by a police officer. Real knee slapper huh?

    Quick question, why should the police have them?
     
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    Quick answer; Only the Police should have them,

    So you can have a Police State !
     
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    To protect citizens when more than one or two decide to mow down us infidels? Because that will eventually happen. It's a given. Ballpark...football game, baseball game, basketball game, soccer game, disneyland, a mall or two or three, a parade, large gatherings of infidels that need to be murdered and it is 10 or 12 crazies with weapons and even though some of those being shot may be carrying...a pistol won't cut it. If the cops get there and have those weapons....a different story. Unless you want conceal carry for such weapons?

    Law abiding citizens are not the problem. Guns are really not the problem. It's the crazies that are the problem. Personally, in my opinion, those kinds of weapons should not be available to regular citizens but if they ARE available and legal...I can deal with that. What I can't deal with is the ability of criminals having them and no law passed is going to stop them.

    I will have to think on it some more, I guess. If I lived in a big city or a volatile town/city like Detroit (for example), then yeah. I might want one myself. Think Ferguson. Multitudes of people swarming the downtown and even quiet streets. In that situation...sure. Mow them all down that try to enter your business to kill you..or even your home. But regular folk that just want protection and live in the boonies? I don't see the reasoning for wanting such weapons.

    Like I said..I have to think on it some more. You opened a whole new door for me to walk through and look around.
     
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    Here's the thing, when Police respond, they're responding to an attack on people like you and I. If an AR15 is their weapon of choice for defending themselves and us, why do we also not need them?

    I mean they're coming to "rescue" us, and that's the weapon they bring. If they need one then it stands to reason that so do we, since we are under attack until they are able to respond.

    The terrorists are going to have them anyways. Look at the automatic weapons popping up all over Europe now, it's becoming a major concern for them. Of course we told them this would happen, because all you have to do is look at Prohibition era violence to know what happens when you ban something: you make it incredibly valuable and worth the risk of major criminal enterprise.

    Crazies ARE the problem. When you look at the Orlando shooters life, and his father, you really have to ask yourself how in the hell this guy made it 30 years without anyone doing anything when his problems started in the 3rd grade and followed him his entire life. Not only did he not get held up, the piece of crap was a security guard! How in the hell did that happen?

    The government is either in on it, or is incredibly inept. Either way, it's up to us to protect ourselves. They're not gonna do it.

    Incidentally, there is no better home defense weapon than an short AR15. It's much more controllable and frangible rounds are less likely to over-penetrate than even a 9mm round. It can even be used to hunt if that was ever necessary. It is one of the best all around platforms you can have.

    Sounds like you're doing some thinking, that's more than I'm used to around here. I'd be interested in knowing what you come up with.
     
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    Very good post !!!!
     
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    You would do better to study and research the subject before commenting about it, of course you have a right to your opinion, it's just an unqualified one.
     
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    any links?

    in any Case, our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State, not Individual rights in private property.
     
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    I don't believe that constitutional rights should be abrogated based on something less than at least probable cause
     
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    If those things worked in real life as well as they worked in a controlled situation, the U.S. Army would be using full auto Glocks with 100 round magazines, instead of what they are using--full auto M4s, etc.
     
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    So you think the the 2A is the only Amendment in the Bill of Rights that is not about individual rights. Do I have that correct?
     
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    It is about what is necessary to the security needs of a free State, not rights in private property, or it would make that clear. Well regulated militia is what is specifically enumerated, not the unorganized militia.
     

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