Gay Marriages Should Be Denied.

which doesn't change the fact that I just proved your statement incorrect. Your pathetic attempt to seek refuge in equivocation, doesn't fool anyone.

 

same sex marriage has exactly the same benefits to society as opposite sex marriage.

 

GET OVER IT!! Homosexual people PAY TAXES TOO. Or is it that you also want their 'citizenship' nullified also?

That is YOUR crappy, biased and BIGOTED opinion, dixon. You have a right to that, but everyone doesn't AGREE with it, nor are they obligated to do so.

Remember, GAY PEOPLE DO PAY TAXES.

 

You probably won't relate to that ever. You'd have to have the same levels of ignorance, fear, hatred and bigotry which were instilled into those INDOCTRINATED by other who were also homophobic. It would be something like understanding the mind of a 'rapist', IMO.

It is NO problem at all. People (especially many in America) are TAUGHT to fear/hate homosexuality and homosexual people. It's getting better over time, but there are still enough people raised in the 'insanity' that it causes the serious 'infection' in this society which is regularly indicated in the very thoughts expressed in these web pages.

I suppose you can tell that I'm not tolerant of the bigotry; and I don't intend to be. People have been putting up with this BS for far too long. It ruins people's lives and causes problems that we as a society don't need. People are out here blaming "gays" for this/that, while GREED, COLLUSION and CORRUPTION are all around them, screwing us ALL.

Gay people and their advocates need to PUSH BACK HARD (politically and legally); maybe I should call it Occupy Attitude (or something).
FIGHT BACK, gay people!! Do not accept the fear (homophobia), hatred and discrimination. Get ready to defend yourselves (one way or the other); this anti-gay stuff is something like "The Terminator"... it won't stop or give up. People either fight it back and defeat it, or it will continue to destroy our society. Gay people DO NOT have to put up with this stuff; they can and should FIGHT IT (on any level they must).

I'm not advocating violence (by any means), just informing of the reality that some HATERS will use violence to express their irrational animus and frustrations at what is. So, be ready to defend yourselves intellectually and physically. Even so, homosexual people should not sit down and take whatever people want to dish out AT them. Be kind, reasonable and compassionate where possible, but understand and accept that SOME people fear and hate you.

 

I didnt claim it did have an effect on single mothers. It is the INCLUSION of heterosexual couples in marriage that lessens the number of children born to single mothers, and why it is

 

What a delusional, heterophobic rant.

 

You have in no way, supported a valid argument against homosexual marriage.

 

It was a rant, indeed; it wasn't delusional (but I'm sure you won't be convinced of that).

BTW, what's "heterophobic" mean? (It's not a very meaningful word you know.)

 

No, you demonstrated your INABILITY to comprehend the difference between ABILITY and INABILITY. Yes, it easy to detect the INABILITY of a woman who has had a hysterectomy to procreate. But medical science, given a relatively healthy, young man and woman with all their parts, fully functioning, cant with any certainty state that the couple will be able to procreate. Will make nothing more than an educated guess that they can procreate.

We could subject every single couple to a battery of medical examinations and laboratory testing, seeking to discover all that are incapeable of procreating and prohibiting them from marrying, and all that have the ability and granting them marriages, AND STILL, your going to have couples who cannot procreate, who are allowed to marry, and couples who can and do procreate who would be denied marriage. And you people still proclaiming that therefore, marriage has nothing to do with procreation. Ignorant, fool logic.

 

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

 

Well, its not valid in the relm of homos and sugar plumb fairies. In courts of law, across the country, in 44 out of 50 states, its very valid. Its why you cant marry your boyfriend in 44 states.

 

Unmarried people pay taxes. Everybody pays taxes. Nothing to justify special treatment for homosexuals.

 

Why do people who don't want children, get married? What do they gain by getting married if marriage is about procreation?

Why do people have children out of wedlock? If marriage is about procreation, wouldn't there be an advantage to having children in wedlock?

Of course, regardless of what marriage is about, it can change. Marriage was originally about politics and economics where marriages were arranged as an alliance or business plan is. Now marriage is about two people who love each other and their commitment to each other.

I was a photographer's assistant for several years and attended many weddings. Not once, in all the weddings I attended, was there mention in the vows of children. Lots of talk of loyalty, commitment and faithfulness however.

You would think that if marriage was all about procreation it would be reflected in people's vows more.

 

???? People get married for a multitude of different reasons. Not really relevant to the discussion as to why government licenses and regulates the relationship. And the majority of births are unplanned. Born to couples that had no intention of procreating. Government has just as much interest in the well being of these children as they do the well being of children resulting from planned pregnancies.

Yes there is, thats why government encourages heterosexuals to marry.

From BC Roman law.

Its always been about men and women becoming fathers and mothers. Still is today

Vows spoken in the ceremonies are up to the individuals and have no effect in the law. As well any two consenting adults can have loyalty, commitment and faithfulness with each other. Really does nothing for your arguments advocating for "gay marriage"

 

Still, no valid reason to deny homosexual people marriage.

 

That is not relevant to the topic at hand; you are just plain off topic.

 

And your off topic expressions of irrational animus, prove what?

 

Dixion....your argument is invalid.

It's over man, let it go.

Procreation and marriage are entirely different entities, and one is not reliant on the other for validation.

 

nobody advocated for special treatment for homosexuals.

 

Yeah, but treating them like regular human beings means you are treating them in a special way, which is unfair to straight people...its true, really, it is.

 

Here in America, the courts determine what is valid. My arguments are winning 44 to 6. Because YOUR argument is invalid.

 

Marriage is extended to heterosexual couples because only heterosexual procreatee. Special treatment for special circumstances. You want to extend marriage to "gay" couples without any justification for doing so.

 

That's essentially irrelevant legally and within this topic, dixon. Cases are in court, which will make that even more clear to you in due time.

 

You cannot provide a rational explanation as to why marriage is extended to heterosexual couples who cannot procreate, or older people, or people who choose not to have children.