GAY TEACHER READS HOMOSEXUAL STORY TO 3RD GRADERS

You're continuously provoking me, and that's wrong.

 

you're responding to me. I'm not flaming you, i simply and politely asked you a few questions. You don't have to respond.

 

And I won't be responding any more because I won't be seeing your posts. Think 'Ignore list'?

 

I find it strange how hostile you became over those questions.

 

Actually you did and it's the same one I pointed out to you previously.

There are no laws preventing the expression of affection in front of children. This is why my wife and I can give each other a kiss or a hug in a public place where there might be children present...without getting on a Registered Sexual Offender list.

Engaging in a sexual act like heterosexual, vanilla sex, coprophilia, or any other fetish in front of a child is.

It's two different things. Radically different things in the eyes of the law.

Now since a child will see people kissing all the time, it's not a stretch that a child might eventually see two men or two women showing a similar display of affection. If that happens...no one is going to get involved more than a simple explanation or an awkward "ask your parents". However if a child reports that they've seen people doing something sexual, child protective services is going to get involved...especially if it's an act involving your example of coprophilia or any other fetish.

That's the logical fallacy. You're comparing a legal act to an illegal one.

 

You don't have to accept it being right. You only have to accept that it is the right of others to do.

 

No we didn't know it since everything you've been ranting about has gone beyond just simple anal sex, an act which is not limited to gays. And is actually common enough not to be a deviancy. Less common than vagainal sex, yes, but pretty damn common. Your posts have been all over the place about social engineering and the gay agenda and so much, how exactly were we supposed to have figured out this was just about anal?

 

That and a host of other questions are up to the parent to decide, not the school and not the teacher.

 

It's like I said earlier, people can be coprophiliacs without engaging sex acts in front of children. They could just talk to the poop adoringly. If this is the case, there is nothing illegal about it.

Illegality is not intrinsic to coprophilia, just like how it is not intrinsic to homosexuality.

 

Well yeah it is. Talking to objects doesn't indicate sexual fetishism.

Two men or two ladies kissing and saying I love you does indicate homosexuality.

 

How is talking to poop adoringly illegal? Note that I said nothing about fetishism. I was focusing on whether said act is illegal or not. In response to what Skrud brought up.

 

True, but the way you've presented your point, you have been referring to the coprophilia as in the acts of it. For example...

Now you are correct that enjoying coprophilic acts is not a crime. But then again neither is vanilla, heterosexual, missionary position sex illegal. However if one were to expose a child to vanilla, heterosexual, missionary position sex, that is illegal. Same as it would be if the coprophile were to expose a child to those acts.

Hence the problem in comparing that and other such legal fetishes to the acts of demonstrated love/romance in public.

I can kiss my wife in public. I can hug her in public. I can say out loud that I love my wife. Those are legal acts that anyone in a relationship can take part of without fear of legal reprisals...even if a child were to witness it. It might be a bit odd for a child and may generate some questions if they see a same sex couple doing those things...but it's not illegal.

Taking children out of the equation for a moment and it would violate public decency laws if people were to actually gear down and start shagging right there out in public. And that would include any activities such as coprophilia and other fetishes. However, in private...such activities are legal.

Putting children back into it, everything in the previous paragraph (However, in private...such activities are legal.) still holds true...as long as it's kept away from children. Heterosexual sex, homosexual sex, fetishes...It's all good as long as children are not exposed to it.

It's when any of those actions are shown to children does the illegality step in.

So...two men or two women sharing an affectionate gesture is as legal as any heterosexual couple doing it even if children are around while any sexual act of any nature would be illegal.

Hence why coprophilia (or any other fetish) won't be taught in schools, but an explanation that same sex couples love each other the same way that heterosexual ones do...might be addressed to satisfy curiosity so the children can stop speculating about it and re-focus on classwork.

 

And that would be a fair assessment. Such *should* be the job of the parents to discuss. However I have found out through my own bouts of childrearing...if you don't answer a question, a child will often hyper-focus on the subject and lose focus on other things.

In a classroom...that's a problem.

In most cases a matter of fact answer satisfies the curiosity especially if one doesn't look or act awkward about it. If one does...the child often picks up on that and wonders what the big deal was.

So I believe that schools may at some point touch base on the subject...but perhaps reading that book would have been something best done with prior parental permission first.

 

A coprophiliac loves his poop just like how same sex couples love each other. So why do we only teach homosexuality but not coprophilia?

Also, you are purely speculating when you say kids need to have their curiosity satisfied so they can re-focus on classwork. It is not such that kids speculate about homosexual loving acts. In fact, they most likely WON'T speculate about it if we don't expose them to it.

 

Well, we don't teach homosexuality so... no point there

Unless they're gay.

 

Yes, my bad. I meant exposing kids to homosexuality in schools.

 

Do you mean exposing them to gay sex, for the concept of two men or two women in a relationship with one another?

 

I agree. It isn't really the school's place to teach kids what to think about this issue.

 

Uhm...nope. I am a fetishist myself. I'm not going to get into what fetishes I and my wife enjoy as that's neither here nor there.

While I enjoy my fetishes, I can't say that I'm in love with them. I do indulge as often as time and situations present...but if I don't get to enjoy them so be it. I can soldier on until the stars align again.

My relationship with my wife on the other hand is something else. That's a lot more important to me. If sex and sexual fetishes were taken from the picture (say old age, decreased appetite, an accident that prevents sexual function, etc), the relationship would still go on.

And that's the point here. Same Sex couples have a romantic attraction to each other. There's a deeper connection there than just a quick shag. Such does not exist in the fetish community between the people and their fetishes. We love our fetishes...but that love is more akin to how I might say "I love spaghetti" and not to "I want to live the rest of my life with spaghetti."

If a coprophile is to that level...then the paraphilia in question has gone from healthy (if a bit odd) sexual excitement inducing activities...into points where it may be now a disorder.

And beating you to this point...that's possible with things like masturbation and even heterosexual sex. It can go from "Fun" to "Disfunctional".

It's not speculation, it's experience. My oldest came to me and asked about a display of homosexual affection. I hemmed and hawed and said "ask your mother". She wasn't ready for it either and she said "ask your father".

Would not shut up about it until we finally sat down and explained it later that week.

Next one a few years later asked the same thing. Matter of fact explained that it was nothing more than two people who love each other the same way that we (wife and I) loved each other. The response was "Weird" and it wasn't brought up again until as a teenager he had more questions on the subject since he had a friend who was gay.

But they're going to be exposed to it. Take your child to an airport and there's going to be homosexual couples saying goodbye to each other the same way that heterosexual ones will. You'll see two men and/or women sharing a quick snog at the Metro Station "Kiss and Ride" lanes.

They're going to be exposed to it. How they come away from the experience is going to depend on how one deals with it and the questions. Treat it as if it's no different than any other couple expressing affection and they'll shrug and move on with their lives. Make a fuss over it and who knows what could come out of it?

Personally I like the fact that my children were raised knowing about homosexuality. It prepared them for the times when they actually met homosexual fellow students. They knew about it, it didn't bother them and when they met them they didn't make damn fools out of themselves.

 

I do accept it, it's just that I don't want to think about it; but every time there's a homo thread then thinking about it is forced upon me, and I resent it. As I've said before, I wish that I'd never found out about AS in the first place, and if I could have some kind of lobotomy to erase the knowledge and the images it involuntarily conjures up, I'd go for it without delay. And I'll repeat something else I've said before - this isn't about 'you' (plural), it's about what you do. The thought of it makes me feel nauseous.

 

Sadly, that is something that can't be helped. There are plenty of legitimate things and actions out there that I wish I wasn't exposed to. But it is going to happen. Avoid it as best you can. See a thread like this, don't open it. Otherwise, it is on you, not us, learning about what we do.

 

I'll do what I feel I need to do?

 

I'm gonna have to side with Maquiscat here. If it's so abhorrent to you...why open the thread in the first place? It's not like anyone's holding a gun to your head.

 

Side with whomever you like, I don't care - and I didn't open the thread.