germany brings its gold home

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Germany calls its gold home?

    I suppose this means the responsible adults who do not have delusions of the government giving a (*)(*)(*)(*) about them should continue to stock up on ammunition.
     
  2. Ivan88

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    What good is a lot of ammunition going to do when you are totally out gunned and out ranged by cruise missiles, attack aircraft, long range mortars, armored attack vehicles, chemical and biological weapons and a system that can shut down your water and food over night?
     
  3. Jeannette

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    I don't know what corporations pay. What I do know is that most of the funds the IRS gets comes from corporations. Also if we didn't tax them higher than foreign countries they wouldn't have left...not to mention the high wages corporations would have to pay in the U.S. because of unions as well as high insurance fees because of the rampant litigation.
     
  4. Jazz

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    They are probably brainwashed and don't know the real Hitler!
     
  5. Jeannette

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    Everything is relative. In comparison to just about all the nations in Europe, and that includes Eastern and Southern Europe, I find the Germanic people much more communal minded, and less likely to avoid paying taxes. I personally believe this is the main reason they are able to progress so readily as nations, while others can only do so as individuals.
     
  6. Jazz

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    Get out of Germany; bring your boys home; stop leaching off your colony.
    And for Pete's sake, STOP the wars! Stop using the NATO nations to do your dirty work!
     
  7. Jazz

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    You brought "Democracy", and now look what a mess they are in. But that is probably part of the destabilizing plan.
     
  8. Jazz

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    Trust is a two-way street. Since Obama listened in on Angela Merkel's personal cell phone conversations, she is telling him where to go... and she wants her gold back!
    Aahh, but hold it! IF the FED has the gold, then Washington has nothing to do with it. The FED is a privately owned and operated Bank in Jewish hands. That is like trusting the fox with your chickens, :wink:
     
  9. Jazz

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    You are like a big breath of fresh Nordsee air, but it is hard for me to believe you. Any moment the Euro will collapse, I have heard.
     
  10. MarkusS

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    The € won't collapse. A collapsing € is not in german interst. And since our nation actually has influence on politics the € won't collapse as long we don't want it collapse.

    Thats the main difference between germany and USA. USA reacts to things, we create things.
     
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    You say you don't know what corporations pay in taxes? I guess you also aren't aware of the corporate tax loopholes either.
     
  12. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are aware it is our government that makes those decisions and not the average American, right? Of course, there would be a huge backlash politically by Europe if we did pull out the troops. How much money do you think Americans put into the EU economy? Seems the average European citizen doesn't have much say in ousting the US military either.
     
  13. Jazz

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    I'm flabbergasted!
    I had no idea Germany, as an occupied country with no peace treaty and no own constitution, has any important decision making power. Germany is a vassal/colony of the USA.
    I like and admire your positive spirit.:smile:
     
  14. MarkusS

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    Germany is not occupied. We are meber of NATO. We also have soldiers in turkey, USA (in Arizona). Do you think we occupy Arizona because of that? We have a constitution. Its called Grundgesetz.

    We aren´t a vassal or colony. At last we don´t have a inbred horseface as head of state like Canada has.
     
  15. Jazz

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    Since the average American hasn't protested yet, I guess you are alright with it... after all, YOU are the ones with the shining democracy and live in the land of the free!!
    If you have some figures, please, quote them here or provide a link. As far as I know you Americans are living off the German economy, because it cost Germany (2006, if I remember right) some 123.something millions that year to accommodate you. The little bit you put back into their economy is a drop in the bucket. Unless you can substantiate your post with a proper link, my memory stands.
    I faintly remember there were protests in Germany against you folks storing some 80 (?) thousand nuclear bombs there. Nothing happened, they are still lying around there somewhere.
    That seems to be the case. But you talk about Europeans, I mean Germans specifically as they are the only losers and were especially brutally treated after the war and remain to this day under occupation and surveillance.
     
  16. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love it!! :clapping: Tell me some more horse sh*t!

    Is the Grundgesetz the same as a constitution?
    Yes, you are a member of NATO and as such a vassal of the Terror-State USA. Am I right? I did admire you for refusing to physically help destroy Libya like our horse face did.

    I also admire Germany for providing another terror state with state-of-the-art submarines... five or six, isn't it? and mainly as gifts. The Germans are either super rich or under pressure to kiss butt.
     
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    did AZ beg you not to withdrawl so it's local economies wouldn't collapse?
     
  18. MarkusS

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    Yes the grundgesetz is same as a constitution.

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    I don´t know, you tell me. But Obama begs us to import more of american products so we pull USA out of the mud. We did denie that. Please tell ypur president his submissive behavior is seen as laughing stock for the world.
     
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    we have been. are you new here? :confuse:
     
  20. Jazz

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    That I will have to check out!
     
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    Maybe you are smart enough to realize big corporations are taking over both our governments and the average Joe Blow doesn't have much of a say these days what our government does. And if you missed the latest news Americans are under surveillance as well by the NSA. Seems big brother is everywhere these days.
     
  22. Jazz

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    Unfortunately, that is true. The politicians get bought by big business to make decisions in their favor. The little guy and the environment have to make do as second and third fiddle.

    Anyway, I hope Germany's gold has not been tampered with and they get to feel good about having a little bit of dough for an emergency situation, IF the storage fee doesn't gobble it up.
     
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    Good luck getting it back. The US refused to let a German representative even see Germany's gold, and the last I heard the US said it would return half of Germany's gold by 2020. The US spent your gold.
     
  24. MarkusS

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    That is not true, the representives of the Bundesbank did see the gold and even took some of it back home.
     
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    You are partly correct.

    The Bundesbank demanded in January 2012 to see its gold and was denied, for almost a year, then was allowed into the antechamber of the vault and was shown a few gold bars and sent home. The Germans went back and were shown one of the 9 rooms holding Germany's gold, but were not allowed to touch or approach the gold and were not allowed to see the other 8 rooms. Did Bundesbank see its gold or was it a scam? I say its a scam.

    Since Jan 2012, Bundesbank has repatriated 37 tons of gold from either the US, France, or England (nobody wil say where it came from). Thats less than 3% of Germany's gold.

    Germany will never again see all of its gold, probably none from the US.
     

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