All Hail King Obama, Messiah and Fascist, Traitor and Racist. How hard is it to land on something that doesn't have any gravity? Sure, that's why the Soviets sent twin dual probes to Phobos, and turned one off in mid-flight, because they made a boo-boo, and then the surviving pair that was supposed to deploy a lander on Phobos....well.....let's just say the WHOLE probe kinda landed on Phobos, but a little too hard. Ooops. Ah, following the pioneering footsteps of that intrepid voyager, Gallileo. It has to be asked, is JUICE box-shaped? Nobody said spaceflight was safe. We all know, after all, why the Russians gave up on the moon. Something about a fully fueled rocket, a General that wanted to view the launch from outside the bunker, and the scientists that were more afraid of the general than the rocket exploding, wasn't it? Decapitating the rocket team wasn't a very good move, now was it? That's much more foolish than when the US cooked the Apollo One crew, but not as foolish as when Kruschev ordered a two man ship be modified to carry three, just because of Apollo. That little move suffocated three cosmonauts, because they didn't have room to wear their suits on re-entry. Oops.
It has incredible hard to land on an object without gravity. If you hit too hard you bounce off and drift away. Its also incredible hard to go into orbit. You just prove now that you have no clue what you talk about. As for JUICE...
SURE it is. Just ask the people that landed the Curiosity rover on Mars. In other words, if your approach program is incompetently written, velocities won't be matched. Matching velocities...that's so difficult, isn't it? Oh, that's right, the United States pioneered close-approach and space-docking procedures on the Gemini program...and, naturally, it was the Apollo team that docked to the Soyuz spacecraft on the joint Apollo-Soyuz Detente show in the 70's, because the Russians couldn't be trusted with the driving. It IS box-shaped. Shall we agree to call it a JUICE box? Boxes...the simplest spacecraft bus shape. The Mayor wishes it well, you know. It's fun pulling your leg and all, but those missions are always beneficial to everyone. It's too bad about your dead cosmonauts, and our dead astronauts. When the US starts electing real Americans to high office again, we'll resume our manned space program, and hopefully they'll have the sense to abandon Mars (too ambitious for the time, and everyone knows it) and go back to the moon for some serious exploitation.
Oh, so now you are attempting to hide your ignorance over dick-measuring contest. It is not a "quibbling". You've made a mistake and I've just helped you to avoid it in the future. Whatever, discussing who have invented concentration camps doesn't sound relevant anyway. Why does it matters? German pigs were the ones to do invading and numerous crimes against humanity, why should I care about how much of them returned? They are savage in their core and have zero respect to the lives of others whatsoever. Hell, you have a living example in this thread. Remember, they exist now only because we (Russians and Americans) allowed them in 1945. Of course I could go with that route of "how much of US citizens of Japanese decent fall a victim of Internment" and play that stupid game of who did more crimes, but it doesn't sound like a constructive way for discussion, does it? Like Tesla, Sikorsky and Einstein, obviously. That kind of flawed logic makes F-15 a cheap copy of MiG-25, you know. Buran first and the last flight was in 1988. USSR collapsed in 1991. Obviously, it wasn't a proper time for any innovations, though there were different projects of supersonic low-orbiters, like Spiral, for one. So, if I were you, I wouldn't be so sure about Americans being the first to propose it. Yeah, yeah,yeah, and I am a space marine and a balet dancer. Face it, nobody cares about what your occupation is in the internet.
German astronauts are not called "cosmonauts", we call ours Astronauten. And luckily we could bring all our Astronauts safe back home. And no, i don´t brag about that because i realize thats always also a bit of luck involved. Beside that i wonder why we even argue...evry single NASA project in last 30 years was in cooperation with our ESA and vice versa. It´s just that we see no sense in Mars. ESA concentrates on the moon, asteroids and comets and the Jupiter moons as well as Saturn. ESA officials often critisized that NASA wastes too much on Mars. I don´t know why, but NASA has some strange love for that rock. Imagine that spacecraft das could explore jupiters moon Europa for all that wasted money.
A word to the American BRAGGERS: After WW2 you Amis stole all German patents you could lay your hands on! You were especially after any modern and futuristic patents. Once you had them safely in your own country you simply "reinvented" them and stamped them with "Made in the USA". That was a war crime and you should be punished for it and pay the Germans for their inventions. Read here: The Great Patents Heist One of the greatest ripoffs of all time was the theft of German patents after World War II http://worldbankmafia.weebly.com/new-page.html
your parents had little use for the patents while they were out digging mass graves for the jews they murdered. Germany declared war on the US so quit acting like a child and grow up.
Mod Edit ~ Reply to deleted post. - - - Updated - - - Same Germany that nationalized all of our high tech industry over there after WW1? Where was Merck founded originally? Germans owe us anything we say they owe us after that war. Those are the rules in total war. Be glad you are not the 51st state and got to keep your primitive culture.
I know, it hurts to be told the truth! GRUESOME HARVEST The Costly Attempt To Exterminate The People of Germany http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/KEELINGgruesom.pdf
Interesting read. Especially the part where he states the British colonized Germany and raped it's women to do so with the French deliberately using Moroccan troops and the US it's Black units to ensure Germans were raped really good..
The things I found interesting was Chavez had already brought 110 tones of gold back to Venezuela and a number of other nations had done the same prior to Germany requesting the repatriation of there gold! So little trust is there in US and UK financial systems, they have even sent over assayers to relieve the fear that it isn't gold! American is going to see some very frightening things in the next few years. Regards Highlander
I see, they did a good job brainwashing you! You should pay more attention to what the young kids have learned in the meantime: Read all here... http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
But we all know your bias, if t here is an alternative explanation to the facts, only your version counts. But we are talmud! Regards Highlander
My bias is that anything that is based on hate and Holocaust denial is crap but you seem to enjoy swimming in it so enjoy, just don't expect everybody to accept your Neo Nazi leanings as anything benign as we all know how it turned out in Germany back in the '30s. "The Institute for Historical Review (IHR), founded in 1978, is an American antisemitic pseudo-scholarly[1] organization with links to neo-Nazi organizations. Its primary purpose is to disseminate views denying key facts of Nazism and the genocide of Jews and other victims.[3][4][5][6][7] It is considered by many scholars as the world's leading Holocaust denial organization." 88!
Yeah, yeah, sure. Especially that part about USSR sending Jews to Nazi Germany You've probably confused USSR with France... But keep trying citizen
They did. I even watched a documentary with footage of the exchange recently. I will go track down its name for you. Edit - it is called "The Soviet story" and his archived film you can argue doesn't exist as you watch my apparatchik. The Jews ran into Russia at first believing the leftist BS about a utopia. Stalin rounded them up and had his men hand them over to the SS. This is when they were still friends and abiding by their agreement to divide Europe.
Keer lying...ugh...meant to say trying "I watched a documentary where US soldiers breeded Auswitz prisoners. I will go track down its name to you"-that is exactly how you sound at the moment. No, really, I find it amazing how several decades of Cold War propaganda switch mans mind the way he sees black as white and white as black.....From the other side it doesn't look one one of the greates minds either.... Don't waste time searching for so-called "documentary". Better spend the time for searching commies under your bed.
Hahaha. Silly Russia so poor, so backwards. There is no better argument I can make then "drive from west Germany and go east until you hit the old USSR controlled areas. Everyone can tell when that is without a map or a history class. And it isn't for positive reasons. How many millions of Ukranians starved to death because of your leftist ideals? How many nations conquered in your fight against imperialism?
Hahaha. Silly America so poor, so backwards. There is no better argument I can make then "drive to Detroit". Everyone can tell when that is without a map or a history class. And it isn't for positive reasons. How many millions of your fellow Americans starved to death because your rightist ideas? How many are on food stamps now? How many nations conquered in your fight against communism? See? It is pretty easy for me. So....how is searching for "documentary" is going?
Aye right enough, your fairy story is the only one allowed, but honestly, it is pure fantasy! The link I gave you previously question directly your Talmud nazi assertions regarding the 4 million in WW1 and the 6 million in WW 2. But I'm prepared to listen to factual information...... That's right your lot won't allow historian access to them! Highlander
Oh, THAT needs to be cleared up. STALIN signed an agreement with Hilter sharing the spoils of Poland. The Russians share as much blame for starting WWII as the Germans do, since Hitler wouldn't have invaded Poland if he wasn't sure Stalin would leave him alone. You should play that game. The Nisei were interned by order of Roosevelt, a known communist sympathizer, and the DemocRATs, known worldwide as commies. Columbia's first flight was in April, 1981. The next flight was in November of that year. Shuttle was rapidly placed into productive service, Buran was left to rot after one flight, even though Gorbachev took three more years to run the Soviet Union into the ground. Why wasn't that machined used again? Was there no purpose in building that asset besides empty propaganda? The US puts men on the Moon, Russia orbits turtles, the US builds a partially resuable space truck, Russia builds a copy, but doesn't have anything for it to do? Clearly there was no point in "improving" Buran since the project had no mission. And what's the sense of that?
The Mayor's mistake. Didn't realize you copied the American's word, not the Russians. Also wasn't aware that the Germans needed a special word, since they've never built their own manned vehicles. Finally, it was probably a case of partially mistaken identity in that post. Actuall, no, YOU couldn't. Germany never built a manned space vehicle and have always been dependent on hitching a ride with some better nation's taxi. It's because we feel sorry for you. Ah, good old Europa. How's anyone, today, going to melt through 50 kilometers of ice to get to the ocean below, when the ice itself is barely 100K? Ain't doin' that with robots any time soon. Agreed, Mars is nothing more than high profile budget propaganda, but the US is the only country able to visit the planet in confidence. It appears the Martians don't like visitors from other countries. And sure the US should be exploiting the Moon by now. Nothing could be better than having 300 radar-stealthed warheads cooled to 2.73 K waiting on rail gun launchers hidden on the lunar surface to deter Chinese and Russian agression.