girl with Confederate dress gets band for prom night by feminist teachers

That's your opinion. I said slavery wasn't right. But in order to understand why it happened, you have to know the circumstances behind it. You also need to understand the times they were in. The will of people to survve.

Most Southerners that fought in the Civil War didn't own plantations. They didn't own slaves. They were fighting to break away form the Union because the Union were passing policies that they believed would ruin the economy of the South. I had four of my ancestors fighting for the South in the Civil War and none of them had slaves.

 

Everyone knows that Ab Lincoln was a human rights champion and that the Civil War was a righteous war to liberate black slaves...

Really, you fools will believe anything a public school teacher tells you. It's easier than actually using your brain.

 

Lincoln was a human rights champion. But he also said he would allow slavery if it would save the Union.

 

The Confederate Flag is just St. Andrew's Cross, like the Scottish national flag. Many of the Southern soldiers, the vast majority of which did not own a single slave, used it as their battle standard because of their Scots-Irish heritage. Only brain-washed conformists who swallowed the propaganda they were spoon-fed by their government teacher actually think the way you do, which is the majority of people from the North. Sad, really sad. Try reading some history books that aren't used to teach fourth grade history and maybe you won't sound so ignorant.

The American flag was flown during the Federal decimation of Native American populations. I guess we should stop flying the American flag, agree?

 

Where does the article say anything about "feminist teachers"? It's hard to believe BS when even the thread title is a lie.

This quote amuses me from LilMiss White Trash:

Really, sweetie? Maybe instead of taking shop class you could try a little History????

 

Lincoln was a puppet of the Northern industrialist and banker who had been parasitizing the Southern economy for decades. He had zero interest in liberating blacks. He was a war mongering tyrant.

 

"Lincoln said in his famous 1862 letter to newspaper editor Horace Greeley, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union."


http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...gets-band-prom-night-feminist-teachers-9.html

 

Holy crap, are people now actually rehashing the civil war?

Not that I have a problem with Che, but...do you think that if she wore a Che dress she would have been sent home to spare the families of Cuban American's some angst? Its a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dress. Must we always have to spare people from engaging each other in productive dialog? We have to shield people from things that might hurt them or make them uncomfortable? Life is uncomfortable. Jeez....

 

Actually, you and the rest of the indoctrinated conformists should take some history outside of fourth grade public schools.

The Confederate Flag was a battle standard in the form of Saint Andrew's Cross flown by poor, largely non-slave-owning Scots-Irish soldiers. You, like most people in this country, have uncritically accepted the victor's version of history which laughably paints Lincoln as some kind of virtuous liberator of black slaves when he was nothing more than an errand boy for Northern industrialists and bankers who wanted to maintain their economic hegemony over the Southern economy via the imposition of tariffs.

 

Darn straight. The record has been distorted and needs correcting.

 

This letter should show you that the war wasn't all about slavery. Lincoln was willing to give the South slaves if it meant saving the union. But as I pointed out, it was more than that.
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Don't think that using Lincoln's own words will convince the conformists. Their grade-school teachers told them that Lincoln was a hero so it must be true.

 

Southern pride in fighting a war to own slaves.

Really? The South is just filled with loving, peaceful, non-discriminatory, non-prejudiced people now? Don't make me laugh.

Break away... and continue owning slaves.

To survive... by making other people property.

So they were duped by the people who DID own slaves... And that is supposed to make me think they're smarter?

 

I'm aware of that. But this poor little slobbering baby has no knowledge of the possible effects of wearing a confederate flag in the deep south based upon it's American history? Really?

The Scots? Really? You're using the story of the flag in Scotland to excuse racist behavior? I'll betcha none of those redneck racists down here with the confederate flag painted on their worn-out pickemtruck will use that as the reason for their racism!

 

Lincoln was against slavery. But he didn't want to go down in history as having the country divided because of it.

 

they were fighting out of fear of the negro being in the same class system as they were. The same doctrine that was used during WWII when all the army doctors wrote memos stating the negro was not intellegent enough to fly planes, too much of a coward to fight in a war...etc. I understand you have an emotional connection to the confederacy by having ancesters fight in the war, however, that does not change the reason why the confederacy went to war in the first place...it was because they wanted to keep the institution of slavery intact. If someone had a weird fetish to wear bedsheets, they can thank the KKK for ruining their ability to do so and be accepted in society. The same applies to the confederate flag.

 

It's not racist to most of the people who fly it today or have decalls of it. I think I explained that earlier. That isn't saying some aren't.

 

Can someone tell me why it is that we must be shielded from clothing? I mean, that's basically what it is. Are we now to fear someone's tacky choice of attire? We can't laugh at how awful it looks? We have to ban it?

What happens, God forbid, when these same kids who have been shielded from everything that might upset them are suddenly put in a situation of real catastrophe like an earthquake, tornado, or asteroid hit? Chaos, hate, and violence would occur. They're not even being prepare for bad words or ugly dresses, let along food shortages, raping and/or pillaging.

 

A distorted history that has been propagated by the victors of a complex and contentious war.

Yes, REALLY. The Confederate Flag is St. Andrew's Cross.



The Confederate soldiers were mostly poor farmers of Scots-Irish heritage who, by and large, did not own any slaves. There is nothing inherently racist about the flag, so there is no reason to paint it as being exclusively a racist symbol. The US government flew the Stars and Stripes during its genocide of the Native American population, does that mean Old Glory is a symbol of genocide?

Use some consistent reasoning and stop buying into the manufactured fourth grade history that we're taught in public school.

 

I fly it every Memorial Day. Does that make me a racist?

 

I fly this Marine Corps flag every Memorial Day also. Marine in the morning and Confederate in the afternoon. Both along with the American flag. As you can see, where I have my poll, I haven't got room for all three at once.

 

Which flag are you referring to? According to some, they're both racist flags.

 

Whenever this issue pops up everyone gets a piece of the truth, no matter how small it might be. This is because it's coated in layers of propaganda that makes one side seem pure and the other side evil.

The reality is that between the Union flag and the Confederate flag(s) the Union flag represents over two centuries of slavery, bigotry, discrimination, and oppression not only against blacks but American Indians and Hispanics as well. It was under the Union flag that slavery flourished in America. It was under the Union flag that slavery endured in the Union until 1865. It was under the Union flag that Jim Crow laws, employment, housing, education discriminations, lynchings, military segregation, and sundown towns existed from one corner of the country to the other. And it was under the Union flag that genocides against American Indians took place.

Sure, the Rebs wanted to expand slavery. They wanted to import millions more blacks from Africa to flood into the western territories. They wanted to start their own country and seize control of Cuba. If they had had their way a lot more black Africans would have ended up in North America. Whether they would be here today is another story.

If Lincoln had survived he might have pushed a plan to deport all blacks from the entire country. So since he didn't they are still here. If you don't like it blame the Rebs who shot him.

Should the girl have been allowed to wear her dress? From a political POV it represents treason. It's hard to work around that because of the many layers of propaganda that influences our thinking. As to a symbol of oppression the Union flag is a lot worse but we like it better because it has a better press agent. That's the power of propaganda.

The bottom line is that the girl, and others like her, need to increase her "street smarts" or else she will suffer in the 21st Century. This isn't 1917 America under Woodrow Wilson.

 

They were fighting out of fear of the negro being in the same class system as they were? That crazy. Your right that during WWII they didn't think they could fight as well or fly planes. But many of those in charge were from the North. By your statement you make it sound like people from the South are not to smart. I have heard that coming from a lot of Northerners. I guess that's one way to make you feel superior to them.