Global Warming -- LOL

Except I have sources for mine while you have… more optimism

See the difference?

I have not mentioned CO2 once so I have no idea why you keep trying to insert this strawman.

 

Which doesn't negate the fact that its poisonous to us.

 

There are a finite amount of any resources. I don't have a problem looking for alternative sources of energy, but until a viable infrastructure is implemented to support one you don't restrict what we do have. If the alternative sources turn out to be viable the market will force out fossil fuels on its own volition. The Biden administration is trying to force a shift towards green energy knowing damn well it financially hurts the "little" man. I get tired of elitists telling me what's good for me. Don't you?

 

If the left can’t blame something on racism then they blame it on global warming. In their minds nothing is natural and just happens.


Air Turbulence? Like Everything Else, Blame Climate Change

https://redstate.com/jimthompson/20...-everything-else-blame-climate-change-n677057

 

That's pretty funny!

And you're right CO^2 is a trace gas. During glacial advances when the Earth carries very little life, it drops to as low as 0.02%. During warm earth conditions when the Earth is teeming with life it runs up well over 0.2% as Earth's natural processes convert CO^2 into living cells. Were CO^2 limited these life producing processes would also be limited, which is why I'm very much against carbon sequester.

As for heat trapping ability, it's powerful in the early part of the curve and does next to nothing at higher levels. For example, going from 0.02% to 0.03% it can have a very powerful warming effect as we climb out of a glacial advance, into an interglacial, such as now when it's at 0.04% but as it runs up from here it's a rather weak greenhouse gas.

Atmosphere has way more oxygen and nitrogen, but, the sun's infrared energy travels in wavelengths of 700 to 1,000,000 nanometers and oxygen and nitrogen absorb energy that is around 200 nanometers or less, they don't interact the sun's infrared and it just passes through. Carbon dioxide absorbs energy at wavelengths between 2,000 and 15,000 nanometers, so it has some interaction with the sun's infrared, it vibrates, reflects some of it back into space, other parts back to earth, and other parts in the remaining direction, thank goodness, without this action it would be 60 degrees colder, but, once you hit a saturation level that corresponds to today's level, raising it further has no great effect. It's a curve that slopes off very quickly. The amount of heat trapping that occurs from 0.02% to 0.04% is much more than would occur from 0.04% to 0.06% and continues to drop off very sharply as it rises. That how you can quickly identify propaganda posing as science if they deliberately leave you with the impression that increasing CO^2 levels has a one to one effect on temperature. Now that you know this, you'll be able to spot the caveats they slide in, because they too know this fact and they want to be able to point out that they mentioned it if someone manages to call them on it, but, with the way they dominate the discussion and suppress other viewpoints, those opportunities seldom occur.

And you're right, it's not a toxin, though at ridiculously high levels that have no currency in this discussion, it can be an asphyxiant.

You asked elsewhere what we can agree on:

• More alternatives to fossil fuel
• More hydro-electric.
• More water projects from areas of high rainfall to thirsty areas of the country, and those projects are a natural mate for hydro-electric, water storage and flood control.
• More safe nuclear. We have nuclear power that is so safe that guys can spend months on a nuclear sub with no nuclear poisoning at all. Similar technology could run large neighborhoods.
• Plastics and runoffs into our oceans. A great deal of this is from China. I think the civilized world should institute tariffs on China that slide up with their failure to mitigate their horrendous lack of environmental policy and fair labor standards. They are slave labor pigs and we should start dialing up the tariffs while urging them to make reforms. Virtue-signaling how much we 'care' while we sub out industrial production to those polluters and slavers is completely profane in my mind.
• Reduce industrial and agricultural toxins entering our air, soil, and water.

That's enough for now, but this is a list that could be easily added to. Crowding these real issues out to lament CO^2 is yet another con job by the monied elite that consume more carbon than any of us.

Here's Leonardo DiCaprio's yacht. He never shuts up about how 'carbon-conscious' he is.

 

The Earth has a lot of ongoing processes to limit carbon to acceptable levels. As you have been at pains to point out we require carbon to .live. What is being tried is to not puR?t in trillions of tons that we don't need and that hurt us. Why are conservatives so wedded to gasoline power anyway?. Electric cars are much easier to drive. They're much quieter and they accelerate phenomenally. What's not to like.

 

Did you forget about all the poor people democrats say they are trying to help?

 

Damn

Grabbing Sharon Stone's thigh pays pretty well, it seems

OTOH you have to just suck it up and muddle through a serious hand injury while the cameras are rolling

 

~ I am of the opinion the Ukraine "war" is being used by the Biden cabal as a money laundry. Where is all the money going ? Where is the documentation/ evidence ?
Nobody actually knows — or cares .

 

Electric cars can save them money too

 

no, bill. reducing refrigerant and hairspray did help to close the ozone hole.

 

I'm not poor and I can't afford an EV. Nevermind the infrastructure isn't there to support it. What will all those people living in apartments do if the owners can't afford to install charging stations for each couple in a single unit with two cars?

 

~ Another Bill Gates brainstorm ...

~ Maybe they are the children ...

 

Good luck finding common ground with a self-described liberal elitist that uses Vladimir Lenin's older brother's name as his username....a man that basically invented modern liberal terrorism.

 

The pro-war folks certainly have no interest in an open debate. And where is the anti-war crowd?

 

The anti-war crowd? Oh, you mean what the warmongers call "Putin apologists" and traitors. No doubt the MIC's Cold War Psyops worked well.

 

There are no restrictions. We are producing as much as we ever have. Biden has been better for the oil and gas industry than Trump ever was.

 

For Planet Earth, This Might Be the Start of a New Age

Ten thousand years after our species began forming primitive agrarian societies, a panel of scientists on Saturday took a big step toward declaring a new interval of geologic time: the Anthropocene, the age of humans.

Our current geologic epoch, the Holocene, began 11,700 years ago with the end of the last big ice age. The panel’s roughly three dozen scholars appear close to recommending that, actually, we have spent the past few decades in a brand-new time unit, one characterized by human-induced, planetary-scale changes that are unfinished but very much underway.

“If you were around in 1920, your attitude would have been, ‘Nature’s too big for humans to influence,’” said Colin N. Waters, a geologist and chair of the Anthropocene Working Group, the panel that has been deliberating on the issue since 2009. The past century has upended that thinking, Dr. Waters said. “It’s been a shock event, a bit like an asteroid hitting the planet.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/17/...0204&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

 

It doesn't hurt anyone and what's good for you is good for everyone.

 

Because they were actually made by denialists claiming that was what was being said e.g. the claim earlier in this thread that “scientists want to eliminate Co2”

 

They don’t have the infrastructure

 

What is “stupid” is pontificating on a subject without reading the main source of information about the subject

 

Yes, I’m also tired of elitists telling me what’s good for me.

 

Fake News. My questions are perfectly on point and seem to have hit a nerve.

 

Seems like just about everyone is completely fed up with gentry-splaining.