God Bless France & Russia

He won't go to the country though. I believe he has yet to finalize his payoffs, er sorry, I mean his "pension plans" like our Tony did before he scarpered. You know, the one day a week job for £1 million a year in kickbacks for past favours performed, er sorry, I meant "understandable wages for a stressful job" - like drinking coffee and doing sod all. Once he left office the poor toothy-grinner needed £15 million a year "just to break-even". Mmm.

[video=youtube;KZEav9A801A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZEav9A801A[/video]

 

I co0uldn't help laughing when he said he wouldn't stand again. That's when he didn't think he'd stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning the next one: now that he does believe he will they'll have to drag him out of number 10 kicking and screaming before anyone else can take up residency. What bloody twerp!

 

Nope. I lived under that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and there's no way anyone could stop me dancing on her grave.

 

IMO isolation of Muslims until they own the problem of straightening out their religion and developing uniform strategies to deal with their terrorists is the only reliable option.

This business of their being culturally unable to stop conflicts without an outside intervenor has to stop, too.

Regarding the fates of Syria, Turkey, the Kurds, and etc of tthe region, if they're willing to send half the population to Europe they might as well shuffle them around on their own land and leave the rest of us out of it

Problem ownership and the setting of proper boundaries is a wonderful thing.

 

are you a far-right or an extreme leftist?

 

And here comes a curious parallel with our Prime Minister: with inverted political stance. Cameron is a Conservative, Renzi is a Progressive. They share the same difficulty. Also Italian parliament wouldn't be that ready to give political support to an eventual active military role of Italy in Syria.

Discussing this, I have to underline that also the outcome of our cooperation with France in Libya probably affects not only our government, but also our military commands. About this, I'm curious to observe how France and Russia will cooperate [they have reached an operative agreement about how to conduct the offensive operations on the battlefield].

 

Using a bit of political rhetoric I could comment saying that Cameron wants to be visible on the stage. He probably imagine to bring UK back in the club of the important powers. I could even think that he "envies" France which, with its present anyway limited military capability, is showing to be an active actor on the world scene.

 

What do you think that Hollande and Putin said about the two amphibious assault warships still to deliver? Do you imagine that they are part of the operative agreement they reached yesterday?

 

You know what? Cameron is spending a lot in the military sector [like former right leaning Italian governments], may be following an American suggestion, one never knows ...

But I guess he would like to use some of the new toys.

 

There are many areas where the U.S. and Russia are competing against each other. And Russia hasn't matured into a stable, responsible, modern democracy yet.

But I think there are many areas where our common interests overlap and we're not taking advantage of those situations. What a waste.

 

It never ceases to amaze when Americans start talking about democracy, maturity, responsibility or stability. I always tell them, get real people. You are not democracy, you are very immature (just look at GOP debates), never take responsibly for your own mistakes and are the cause of all instability in the world.

Practice what you preach. Anyone who is objective can easily see that Russians want to cooperate, America issues ultimatums. Americans need to learn the meaning of the world cooperation. And above all accept the fact that the world is moving away from a unipolar to multipolar world.

 

I don't agree with everything you say, but I do agree the U.S. has missed some opportunities to cooperate with Russia.

Even if the two countries disagree on 90% of all issues, why not cooperate on the other 10%?

 

The whole situation of foreign intervention in Syria is just screaming madness.
There is so little to achieve from aerial bombing.

 

I really think that our country share lots of common values, and as we're very linked by a long friendship history, I've always been shoked to see how our governement treats Russia... Each time a met other french people patriots, they love Russia. There's a gap between what people think and what our country do!

We're truely in a cultural war, people need to understand it...

 

I haven't read anything about that, unfortunaly And as they have already been sold to Egypt, I think we can't even think about it... That was another stupid idea of this governement... We just can hope this kind of thing will not happen again.

 

Yes, I agree. I'm also waiting to see how the Russo-Franco cooperation works out. Clearly Hollande's recent trip to Moscow was to sort out some of the political aspects, and I guess he left the technicalities to his military with Putin doing the same.

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Interesting thought. I'd completely forgotten about that. I wonder if the US would still object though?

 

My impression is that Obama administration intends to follow the "Libya method", that is to say to leave NATO allies and others do the "job", while US forces will observe keeping a profile as low as possible. Actually, to be fair, Russia has done well more in a little time than US in many months.

 

And I was so mindless not to check the destiny of those ships.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/france-to-sell-mistral-warships-to-egypt-1443009701
This closes the matter.

 

It is assumed one of the reasons Erdogan was given the go ahead by Washington to shoot down the plane, was to end the peace process in Geneva. The process was started by Russia months ago, and it was beginning to bear fruit... something Washington does not want. Instead it wants to keep the war going on in Syria so they can achieve their goal and get rid of Assad, that way Syria can be broken into pieces.

The Washington neo cons are a bunch of self destructive idiots...but that's what arrogance does. They want to make a part of Syria into a Sunni state... in other words make ISIS legitimate. I guess the idea is to pit the Sunni terrorists against Iran, never realizing that their first goal would be Europe and Israel.

 

If the West had any damn sense, it would throw all those Sunni Arab countries under the bus, sanction them for sponsoring terrorism, eject Turkey from NATO, invite Russia in and make its primary mission one of combating terrorism.

The upside to this would be that oil prices would rise due to sanctions on Sunni countries and Russia and the US would both profit from that. In addition, seriously combating terrorism would bring peace to the region so that economic progress could occur. The US could take part in China's Silk Road project and reap some of the benefits. In other words, there's a win in it for everyone if those Sunnis that are sponsoring terrorism were taken out of the picture.

 

Not that I disagree with you, but based on your grasp of the English language I am skeptical of your acclaimed citizenship

 

I really am skeptical about your education. She is French. You obviously know very little about history. I advise you...shame, too late...French owe Russians a lot.

Alexander, Napoleon & Joséphine, a Story of Friendship, War and Art from the Hermitage
https://www.hermitage.nl/en/tentoonstellingen/alexander_napoleon_josephine/index.htm

 

I agree. Russia was about the only country taking ISIS and terrorism seriously. France had to be hit over the head with Paris. It is a shame that something akin to Paris has to happen here in the good old USA before we start to take ISIS seriously. Even if something did, this president still might not take them seriously.

 

I'm really not sure to understand what you mean... Maybe it's better like that.

 

Nowdays we really don't study a lot Napoleon at school: it's dammagable, people would love even more Russia if they had better knowledges about their history...

I also think a lot of what's happen between the franco-prussian war of 1870 (studied as much as Napoleon...) and the frist word war; France succeed to recover largely thanks to the frienship made with Russia. It's really a country with who we got lots of links.