God Bless France & Russia

They still haven't cottoned on (nor ever will apparently ) to the fact that there's a regional mentality at work here, and that the ME mentality is entirely different to the Western one, and ne'er the bloody twain shall meet. Their arrogance and delusion makes it that they can't seen the wood for the trees.

 

The Americans will never ally themselves with Russia - not in a million years. They'd rather go to war with Russia than do that.

'The West has become a dangerous and destructive force in the world'.

 

I've said this before, but surely there can't be much of Syria left to bomb. And I wouldn't mind betting that IS has moved its power base far away from there by now, so why the hell keep bloody bombing it?

 

Exactly. There is next to nothing to gain.
If anything the west is only going to cause more problems if they go after ISIS in urban areas and even then such military action will at best degrade but not dissolve ISIS.

 

And who's going to pick up the tab for rebuilding the entire countries of Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan when it's all over? Why, we are of course - the poor bloody taxpayers of the US and the UK.

 

Well I don't think that will be the case. I mean yes there probably will be money allocated in the form of UK aid but I think the rebuilding process will be left to private and overseas companies.
Unfortunately I believe that Afghanistan is a lost cause and is going to be known as a near perfect copy of what the USSR did in the 80's.
Iraq might have some hope but one of the real problems I foresee is the growth of Kurdish power and their de facto army.

 

ignoring reality to just make a silly post is obnoxious.

 

They may be forced, if the ISIS want to detroy this two countries, they will naturaly have to be closer for their own interests - even if it's an hypocrite alliance.

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa! The terrorists are just following their Bush/Obama approved religion more faithfully, more at its word, they believe it says what it means, and means what it says more than other Muslims. How can we condemn them for just being more Muslim than the other Muslims, when Bush and Obama say that Islam is a good thing and won't condemn Islam?

 

Katzgar must be in with the war crazies in Tel Aviv, Mecca and elsewhere to express the resentment he stated against cerberus.

 

I don't believe in it. Russia helped to find independence of the USA in 1775.

On September 1, 1775 the English king George III sent the personal message to Catherine II, the king in sublime expressions agreed "to accept", and in essence asked the Russian soldiers "for suppression of revolt in the American colonies". 20-30 thousand army of Russians. But the empress refused. At the USA it was estimated:
"We are much pleased, - wrote Washington to Lafayette in the spring of 1779, - that requests and offers of Great Britain to the Russian empress are rejected with contempt". Another time, noting resolute refusal of Catherine II to sign any contract on mutual aid with England, G. Washington emphasized that the Russian government motivated the position in the expressions carrying a print of "respect for the rights of mankind".

In World War II, also America helped Russia...

So it isn't necessary to speak about one million years. It is sure, soon the USA will be the ally, in much polar world, with Russia in many questions on international law, the general safety etc.

 

Oh I agree. I've said once or twice recently on related threads that we should petition Mr Putin to join forces against our common enemy. Trouble is that the alliance wouldn't last 5 minutes because the WH and Pentagon will insist on running the show (such is their misguided self-belief! ), and we'd be back to square one?

 

Yes, but they'll have to be paid and it'll be us who do the paying, won't it? Who else would it be?

 

You might be surprised as even devastated economies can still muster capital and Syria could be quite lucrative once the war is over.
Unless there is new tax to support such an endeavour then I wouldn't worry about who's paying.

 

I wasn't worrying when I posted, just making a general point. While I'm here though, western governments - and it will be western governments - wouldn't necessarily have to introduce new taxes, they'll simply divert some of what's already earmarked for domestic projects. Much like ours is putting us into austerity measures, but the savings from the cutbacks are being used to pay our contributions to the EU and not to pay off our national debt.

 

I don't think that it will exclusivity western governments as there are plenty of countries who are looking to spend overseas. In fact some have to spend in order to keep their own economies in check with China being a prime example.
Of course there are NGO's which could easily provide money to rebuilding Syria so the UK might not need to readjust the budget and would have even more cash if it left the EU.

 

But we're not talking about re-building a few towns or cities here (because they're all rubble now), we're talking about re-building 3 entire countries, and that'll be serious big bucks.

 

Serious bucks to earn.