God created sin - Change my mind

I was referring to Gods work and people, not mans Church's.

 

And like horses can cross breed with donkeys to produce hinnies, and lions can cross breed with tigers to produce ligers, humans can cross breed with chimps to produce humanzees. And similarly about 2% of genome of Homo sapiens is from Homo neanderthal after cross breeding.

 

Or omnipresent.

 

The story in Genesis 18 describes the god Abraham shared a meal with as neither omniscient or omnipresent.
And similarly for the god in the garden of Eden.

 

IMO, no obedience is required for any love.
Not being obedient does NOT mean resentment.

So, I still fail to see the correlation between obedience and resentment.

They are not related. Explain.
This is the 3rd or 4th time asking.

 

An omniscient being has no need to change/adjust for future things.

For all is already known. The outcome is already known. Before the beginning of any event.

 

It's the part that god is.
Since god created all.
And man is the image of god.
Show us the whole god. For comparison.

 

I said no such thing.
Why lie about what I've said? Or post quotes of me saying those lies you posted.

I said, rape definition changed. Over time.

God said to rape. Read the bible. So, does that mean there's no crime of rape today? Is it not wrong to rape if god said to rape?

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Zechariah 14:2
Verse Concepts

For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Rape

 

If my father threatened me with death and eternal torture for not loving him, I would absolutely resent my father. My father was better than that. Most are. Some aren't, and we have a name for those ones.

 

You'll have to go back about 10 million years to find the common ancestor between men and chimpanzees. And it didn't happen overnight. It happened slowly over time.

 

What's the difference?
And how does one tel the difference?

Isn't the mormons nothing more than another mans church.

 

You sure?
Some think there should be some born half man/half chimpanzee. Every day

 

I've found that the more people speak against the theory of evolution, the less they tend to know what it is.

 

Do you actually understand what evolution is?

 

Gods work and people is what is recorded in scripture. The work, people, and Churchs of men is the attempt to approximate what they find in those scriptures known as the Bible. Bible based religion isn't a continuation of Gods work. It is a reflection. This is traditional Christianity. But using the Bible as a blueprint by men is subject to interpretation by men. That's why there are tens of thousands of differing denominations. Each has its own interpretation of the same thing, varying from one another to one degree or another. So essentially it is tens of thousands of different gospels and Christs. This is because it is the work of man, and not a continuation of Gods work. Otherwise they'd be under one heading, one name, and teach the same thing. Because it isn't, it is it's own disqualifier, relative to the Bible which teaches one Christ and one gospel. Gods work isn't advanced thru disunity or disparity. This is self evident.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints asserts and testifies that it is Gods restored Church and authority. It isn't another Bible based religion in the marketplace of wannabe's. It uses two main sacred texts, the Bible and the Book of Mormon which both testify of Jesus Christ. The Church is established by the living God himself and a succession of his holy angels or exalted beings who thru Joseph Smith bestowed the keys and authorities on him necessary to establish Gods kingdom and advance his work for the salvation of man. It isn't another attempt to approximate the Bible in vain repetition or to do away with it. It is full and new, like Jesus Christ himself was to Judaism. It is his work and bears his name. It teaches one gospel and one Christ as opposed to the discordant cacophony of tradition. And I don't say this to put anyone down, but to hold out hope and to say that God lives.

 

You believe a man can become a woman.... Talk about silly....

 

Original scriptures by that god of abraham contained nothing about Jesus or christians.

That story was made up several thousand years later.
A religion, created by man for man.

So, you really haven't explained anything to me that clarifies.
There's a reason for 1000s of christian religions. No one knows what the original scriptures say about some christian religion.
So, it gets to be made up for each one.

 

That's a terrible deflection. A lie.

Way to go. Since you can't explain your original post. You had to resort to intentional untruths. That must be your christian thing to do.

 

Actually there are some 300 prophecies about Jesus in the Old Testament. And Jews believe in the coming of the messiah too, they just don't accept the fact that it was Jesus.

Don't feed 'em.

 

I've read them. They either are not prophesies or not about some child thousands of years into the future.

Often they are prophesies about a state of Israel or similar.

... Jewish messiah belief...

What is the belief in Moshiach?
One of the principles of Jewish faith enumerated by Maimonides is that one day there will arise a dynamic Jewish leader, a direct descendant of the Davidic dynasty, who will rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, and gather Jews from all over the world and bring them back to the Land of Israel.

All the nations of the world will recognize Moshiach to be a world leader, and will accept his dominion. In the messianic era there will be world peace, no more wars nor famine, and, in general, a high standard of living.

All mankind will worship one G‑d, and live a more spiritual and moral way of life. The Jewish nation will be preoccupied with learning Torah and fathoming its secrets.

The coming of Moshiach will complete G‑d’s purpose in creation: for man to make an abode for G‑d in the lower worlds—that is, to reveal the inherent spirituality in the material world.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/108400/jewish/The-End-of-Days.htm

 

You read them and they said nothing about it?

Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”

Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Micah 5:2: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

 

It's about a rebirth of a land called Israel after they split.

The fact that cherry picking certain verses throughout the bible to find a few to make a claim that all those unrelated verses point to Jesus and Christianity is a stretch IMO.

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https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/464022/jewish/Isaiahs-Prophecies.htm

 

A virgin will give birth to.......a country called Immanuel? LOLs

 

Do I believe it? No. I know that God lives. I see the evolution of man as a philosophy of convenience, whose origin or past is buried by the extinction of the species from which it supposedly evolved. The time span is so long, that the theory can only be discerned or extrapolated thru scientific study of remnants, bones, and DNA, spanning millions of years, as there is no practical validation for confirmation. So in common terms it might be said to be a rancher who is "all hat and no cattle."

Evolution doesn't know where it started or why or where it's going. It doesn't know from which species the earliest said monkey or ape in the process evolved. It doesn't know when the process ended to become man. And it doesn't know what man will become. It is nothing but a patchwork of snippets spanning millions of years, sown together by speculation in the many interims between data points. So to me it is to seek refuge in the past, away from God in the present.

 

There's no word virgin used.
That's a mistranslation.
And is backed up by having to use a single verse(s) scattered about the bible to make that story make sense.

You should read the hebrew word(s) used and the original meaning of them before translations.

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The answer is simply - This passage in Isaiah isn’t speaking about the Messiah or a virgin birth.

Let’s begin by examining the context of the seventh chapter of Isaiah. In the same way that America and Korea were divided into North and South during their Civil wars, at this point in Jewish history the Jewish nation was divided into two kingdoms,[2] known as the Southern Kingdom of Judea and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Each kingdom had its own capital, king and enemies.

The Southern Kingdom of Judea had its capital in Jerusalem and was ruled by King Ahaz. The Northern Kingdom of Israel had its capital in Samaria and was ruled by King Pekah. To the north of both these kingdoms was a third, non-Jewish ruler, King Resin of Aram (Syria) whose capital was Damascus.

God dispatched the prophet Isaiah and one of his sons to warn King Ahaz that the northern kingdom had formed an alliance with this King Rezin They had joined forces to “wage war against Jerusalem.” Isaiah tells King Ahaz (verse 4) that he should not be afraid because God will be with him and the invasion with fail. Additionally, within 65 years the northern kingdom will cease to exist and its 10 tribes would be led into exile by Assyria. This is where the idea of ten lost tribes originates.

Although Ahaz was an evil king, God would continue to protect Jerusalem in the merit of his righteous predecessors. When Ahaz ignores Isaiah’s warning the prophet tells him to request a sign from God. After Ahaz refuses this offer, Isaiah informs him that God will give him a sign despite his stubbornness. He tells King Ahaz that “The Lord Himself will give you a sign. Behold the Almah (הָעַלְמָה) shall conceive and give birth to a son and she shall call his name Immanuel.” Isaiah 7:14

Mistranslation
The word Almah has been mistranslated by most Christians as “virgin.” In truth, this word means "young woman." Additionally, the definite article (Ha-ה) means "the" and indicates that the prophet is speaking about a specific woman who he can point to.
https://www.jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-714-a-virgin-birth/