Gov. Ron DeSantis accuses President Biden of making pandemic worse with lax border security

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No reason besides the thousands of illegals Biden is pumping into south Florida. A blanket statement about republicans explains nothing.

 

If they were the cause, then why did 500 000 Americans die of it in 2020 when illegal immigration was supposedly controlled "best ever in the history in US"?

Its typical that a political leader says something, and in a matter of hours all loyalists are parroting the same exact words. People don't bother to think for themselves anymore. They have to be told that to say.

 

Do you know how long it will take NY to catch up economically to FL? But yeah, since Democrats blamed everything on Trump, by their logic everything happening now is on Biden. Fair is fair, right? The NE has been locked down almost the whole time. FL hasn’t and still isn’t. If we follow some EU countries, DELTA could blow through in a couple weeks. Or maybe not. Vaccinated still get it and spread it.

Glad me, my family and most people I know are vaccinated so we won’t get seriously ill. But since March of last year the MSM has been lying about FL and they still are. Even now by any measure FL has done far better than every comparable Democrat run state. And when Delta hits them like it’s hitting us now, we’ll see how all their extra “precautions” saved them.

 

Daily cases are also increasing in CT.

What people don’t cover is that the ratio of deaths to cases has decreased.

 

A couple of Trumpers have complained about lefties stating they wished death upon them and I spoke out against that saying that's not true. Now, you are the second person in this conversation that has said something along those lines.

Can you help me understand why it's okay to joke about people dying (even if they are from the opposite party)? I don't find suffering and death to be particularly funny so I'm trying to understand this viewpoint.

 

Why is that?

Being conservative (not the political party), let's say, every person that died from COVID had 10 loved ones. Those 10 people have influence over 10 other people's political leanings.

Add in people that lost their businesses, jobs, homes, vehicle(s).

Add in people that lost their savings and/or a large percentage of their retirement funds.

Add in people that are now working 2-3 minimum wage jobs to stay afloat.

Add in all the people that died of conditions that developed because of delays in medical treatment when priority was given to COVID patients (one of our posters lost her mom because of this).

Add in all the people who became victims of crime because some prisons released some of their prisoners due to COVID.

Add in all the people who have been separated from their loved ones for months (when someone has to go to the hospital or nursing home for care).

Notwithstanding anything else, it's very clear that Trump got fired because he dropped the ball on COVID.

 

People keep saying Trump dropped the ball. Dropped what? WTF should he have done, barricaded people in their homes like China? What didn’t Trump do? Did he prevent a vaccine from being developed? Did he prevent care from being given? Did he try to shut down travel and was blasted and called a racist? Did he prevent states from doing what they wanted to do? What what more could he have done? And if you say NOT lie about masks, that means nothing since Fauci lied about masks 3 or 4 times.

If anything imagine if Hillary was in charge and listened to much of the medical establishment who said we shouldn’t push through the vaccines on such a timeline and did it the ol fashioned way? We wouldn’t even have a vaccine yet. Imagine if Hillary locked the country down like NY and CA. Where would our economy be without states that didn’t lock down like they did? Think of the damage if the entire country did what NY and CA did. We’d be fighting for cans of dog food.

 

No, if the entire country isolated for 30 days simultaneously there would be no more pandemic and we would all be back to work. Over and done.

But no, your sludge of an ex-president had to pretend to be smarter than anyone and utterly failed to do anything meaningful or lead. Your pathetic attempt to accuse other of “lying” ,as opposed to changing guidance as new information comes to light , bears no resemblance to the 4 years of deliberate, self serving lies that your sludge of an ex president attempted to sell.

Yet you keep defending these actions. Pathetic and self destructive. But please, keep it up.

 

Not sure how you protect kids and families by forcing kids to go to school without masks. Protect from what?

He also threatened schools by saying he will deny them taxpayer money of they ask for kids to wear masks, so basically he has grabbed the power of the purse too. That's OUR money dude. We paid it to fund schools, and now you're playing politics with it? Small government conservatives should be appalled by DeSantis overreach, but it makes sense populists and authoritarians applaud it.

Lot of school districts have announced they will defy DeSantis BS bans and mandates, and if they need to go to court to get the funds which he is withholding, then they will do that.

 

My wife could have typed that post, it sounds very similar to what she is going through. We took Pfizer. My wife has been experiencing symptoms most common with motion sickness or vertigo.

I have had issues as well, my immune system is kicking into overdrive and I'm allergic to all kinds of things now - one being sunlight apparently.

 

I heard Joe couldn't remember Ron's name so he stuttered..."corn pop".... his handlers whisked him away from the public....

 

Trump Praises Xi for Handling of Coronavirus Outbreak
NATIONAL REVIEW​

You can't take Loser's tenacious butt barnacles seriously. His relentless failure to deal competently with the pandemic as it ravaged America is far too well-documented for them to pretend otherwise:

For a start, here’s what Trump said in public remarks, interviews and tweets, just between Jan. 22 and March 10, 2020:

Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”

Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.”

Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.”

Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.”

Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”

Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.”

Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

Feb. 29: “And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.”

March 4: “[W]e have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. … We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don’t add that to the numbers, we’re talking about very small numbers in the United States.”

March 4: “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number.” (Trump lying about the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization.}

March 7: “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.”

March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-statements-about-the-coronavirus/

 

Do you actually live in FL? It sure doesn't seem like it. You don't pay a state income tax, so how do you suppose that you actually paid the money in that the governor is suggesting he withhold? He cannot do anything if you pay a local property tax, as he doesn't control those funds. So, where is this money that you supplied to the state of FL coming from?

 

“l heard” ……. LMAO…. Sounds about as accurate as your false claim that Garland got an up/down vote for SCOTUS.

 

Lol…Desantis’ efforts to distract from his own failure is failing.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/05/ron-desantis-florida-governor-covid-coronavirus

 

Yes, I have lived here for the past 23 years, and yes, we pay tax to fund schools, and yes, DeSantis is threatening to withhold funds from schools unless them obey his mandates. As to how DeSantis would fulfill his threat remains to be seen, but it will likely to be taken to the courts because it is an classic example of government overreach. Schools are funded from property taxes, sales taxes and federal grants.

Small government conservatives should be appalled by DeSantis overreach, but people like you are expected to applaud it.

 

What taxes? The state doesn't collect income taxes What taxes are you referring to? You really don't seem to understand how your state or its government work.

 

FL's fine. They have 6% of the US active infected and 6% of the US population.
CA on the other hand, has 32% of the US infected despite only having 12% of the population.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/

But, you say nothing about Gov Hair Grease, while the Left never shuts up about DeSantis. You fear the right guy. He's an outstanding Freedom and Liberty Gov.

The Left is all about the mask mandates, because they are authoritarian. There is no evidence they are effective. Then they are silent why the Blue hypocrites violate them and even more silent when the rare blue politicians fails to impose them:

BLUE DENVER GETTING RED-PILLED: Hancock not sticking his neck out for Polis this time around.

Freedom/Liberty DeSantis-like approach, in Blue Denver? Wonders never cease! Some Blue politicians are actually remembering that they are dealing with a Free People, not serfs.

Blue Politicians destroyed small business and the entry level positions that actually train young people how to operate in the workforce after the radical teachers unions have completely failed to teach them core academics and job skills, but have taught them how to protest and be offended.

 

Lets try this again, and give it a few minutes to sink in. See the post which you replied to.

As for exactly how DeSantis plans to grab the power of the purse, you'd have to ask him. He is the one talking about it.

 

Yet Biden and Harris were questioning the Trump vaccine in the primaries but he had nothing to do with it...uhh ok. I know it pains you that you are touting the vaccine that the last administration certainly funded with a PO, fast tracked with FDA and help facilitate the logistics but realize you and the dems are politicizing the vaccine with this kind of rhetoric. When you politicize the vaccine you get the results you see today. This administration should've lead the left and insured it wasn't politized but they didn't and it's a massive failure because of that. Presidential election sealed it's fate unfortunately. The also failed miserably in the minority communities, the lefts voting block.

 

I can see the argument about it protecting freedom.

Protecting children and parents, not so much. In this case, protecting freedom actually does the opposite of protecting parents and children.

But we live in a world where folks think they can have their cake and eat it too. And that's humorous because that is one of the complaints I hear constantly being made about how the younger generations are said to behave. No responsibility but want all the benefits.

Wonder where they learned it from?

 

Florida has 7.5% of all cases in the US.

And the state recorded 17k new cases yesterday.

10k for CA.

Florida is in the midst of a horrendous 4th wave.

That's not true.

There are 4M cases in California and 35.4M active cases in the US.

CA has 11.3% of the total.

 

His point is simple, if you let hundreds of thousands of untested and unvaccinated people pour into this country and be delivered all over the south/red states you will most definitely see a spike in Covid. A f'ing 1st grader would understand that yet here you are blaming governors and red states. You and the left are once again playing politics, you don't really care that illegals are pouring in and most definitely bringing the virus with them and you blame everyone else to protect your future illegal voting block. Carry on though it won't be hard for normal every day voters to understand.

 

You told us that De Santis was going to not use the money your provided to him to spend on education. In FL, that's astonishing since you don't actually pay into his funds through your taxes because you don't pay income taxes. You might pay local property taxes.but the state doesn't allocate those funds. Any funds then that are federally granted are NOT his to control, meaning he cannot control anything other than those state general funds that you don't pay into. So explain, again, how the money that you think you are spending isn't getting to the schools. Tick tock....