Governor of Texas should be jailed.

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  1. spiritgide

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    If the people he sent them to were doing their job, those illegal immigrants would be warm and comfy on the south side of the border, instead of invading America.
    You're saying they should send them to your house? Providing of course they drop you a note that you will be having a bus load of guests in the morning?
    Of course, they won't knock on your door; they will just come in, climb through windows, make themselves at home. Drink your beer, eat your nachos, and send you out to the store get more.
    You gonna be sooo happy to have friends.

    Immigrants are people responsible for themselves. They had a country, but refused to make their own society and environment a good place, so they look at America and come here for the free stuff. They see the grass is greener on the other side of the fence- so why bother to maintain their own when they can get ours free?

    The very act of entering without permission is one of disrespect for the nation. If someone you've never seen before just walked in your door and moves in, he's telling you he knows you are a fool.
    Some fools have no ability to understand that message.
     
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    Are you advocating for violence?
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Bible does.
     
  4. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    *sigh* 1, 2, 3 . . . .
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    4, 5, 6 Counting is fun.
     
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    And sometimes the only prudent response to some posts.
     
  7. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that's true.... what's New York complaining about?
     
  8. Dayton3

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    where, specifically in the New Testament.
     
  9. Nemesis

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    You're pretty good at counting. *thumbs up*
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying The Bible DIDN'T urge people to do just what I said?
     
  11. Dayton3

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    Are you admitting that it is nowhere in the New Testament?
     
  12. Overitall

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    I'm saying you missed the point of my post that you quoted.
     
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    You really think a lack of enforcement causes that strife? More like the very existence of border enforcement combined with the desperate situation many of them are coming from. Desperate people, being cargo for a black market, of course that will happen (85% sounds high, but the exact number isn't really the point). I still don't see the need for border security, really. If you think the average immigrant, even an illegal one, is more dangerous than the average US citizen, you'd be wrong. But I'd agree that coming here for social services is not something that should be incentivized.

    Why are you so bothered by them coming here? Liberals tend to assume it's because republicans want to keep America white.
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    May I impose on you to restate it then? Thanks.
     
  15. Overitall

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    I was responding to a question asked. Not inviting a discussion on the subject.
     
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    Of Biden none of this happens without him.
     
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    Ironic to see the sudden concern for illegal immigrants when Reps are using them as pawns. When dems give them incentives to come here, they have to pay the cartels for passage. This income allows them to strengthen their grip on the poor people back home. Drugs, Human trafficking, sex tourism, forced servitude, etc.

    As long as suffering can be exploited for political gain, it is okay as long as its the party you support.
     
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    How do you figure given that their very presence is an illegal act?
     
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    I’m betting his point is not all illegal acts makes one a dangerous person. While they are here illegally, being so does not automatically make them “dangerous”.
     
  20. LiveUninhibited

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    I used the word dangerous. That relates to crimes with direct victims (e.g. theft, any violence), or at a minimum endangers others like drunk driving. I'd have to look for it if you need proof, but data I've seen shows their rates of committing crimes against other persons is lower than the average American citizen. Given every person is both a potential source of and target of crime, their net effect would be making us safer.
     
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  21. Lee Atwater

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    Could you specify those incentives? Thanks.

    The exact impact of Mr. Biden’s policies or election on border crossings is difficult to gauge, as migration flows are driven by myriad factors and there has been only one full month of data under Mr. Biden.

    “The push factors are at the highest they’ve been at quite some time,” said Mr. Reichlin-Melnick, ticking off political corruption, instability, poverty and violence in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. The economic toll of the pandemic and two hurricanes that battered the region toward the end of last year further exacerbated difficult conditions.

    Conversely, better economic opportunities and the chance to reunite with family have pulled migrants to the United States, and immigration policy can act as an extra tug.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/20/us/politics/fact-check-immigration-border.html
     
  22. Doofenshmirtz

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    My pleasure. Free healthcare, Covid cash, legal protection, food assistance, tax free income, and public education. I don't blame them for coming. Life back home is not so good. The problem is that the more people that come, the more money goes to the cartels, and the worse things get back home.

    Illegal immigration and the suffering that goes with it, are acceptable for those politicians exploiting it.
     
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    Do me a favor and substantiate the claims with an authoritative source.

    For example, Plyler v. Doe mandates that the children of illegal immigrants be given access to public education. So that isn't a Biden policy.
     
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    Sorry I am not giving you the partisan argument you expected. Both parties exploit these people. Those supporting either party are not in a position to criticize. Dems can say they care about these people the same way someone can claim to care about wildlife while placing a bird feeder on an electric fence.
     
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    Is that your way of explaining you don't have any authoritative sources to back up your claims? I can't tell.
     
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