Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist tells CDC

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  1. Death

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    Conscientious scientists speaking truth to power blows your mind Mein Herr.

    When a well packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

    That's why the doctor's honest statements offend you so.
     
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    EASE UP. Sounds like you take this personally from a diagnosis made on you. Been there. Step back a bit. You are labeling someone exactly the same way you hate it done to you.

    Eudora with due respect go back and read the reactions to polio, small pox, measles.
     
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    and as the vaccine targets the spike protein, it's more likely to work on a future version of covid
     
  6. Statistikhengst

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    Why would you call me "Mein Herr"? I'm not German. That's silliness.

    Also, the "doctor" is an unknown.

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    Update:

    "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service."

    Heh. See? Told you. YouTube removes disinformation, at least where Covid-19 is concerned. This is why the kooks post to Poop Chute. Our old pal Cosssack is on there, too: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/dolbi/
     
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    PART I

    So after insinuating that Dr Bridle is a Fraud, with the statement that - "Kooks always try
    to fluff up their own credentials" -
    and that the Facts he has brought forward are a load of
    "Poop Chute Crap", our Ad Hominem wielding expert, our sword of Truth, the same self
    -sharpend Durandal seems ready to concede that, "at least this guy may not be a kook himself "

    Whats the matter GUY ? - :)
    Do YOU lack the courage of YOUR own convictions while engaging in a cheap smear ?
    Bald Ad Hominem, laced with Ridicule & Censorship in a poisoned Corporate Gruel
    ................................................... That's all YOU talking heads seem to have in YOUR arsenal


    As from here we are led into to a well healed Corporate (obscured source) REBUTTAL that starts
    off with the stupid Ad Hominem insinuation that Dr. Bridel is a QUACK
    ........................................................................... [​IMG]

    & then descends into Smoke & Mirrors
    REBUTTAL
    1. "There is no spike protein in the mRNA vaccines:"
    Dr Bridal never said that the Spike Protein are physically IN the mRNA Vaccines.
    The mRNA Vaccines in FACT cause the body to produce them. -So this statement
    is here EXPOSED as a dishonest Misdirect and attempt to obscure the FACT that
    the body is made into a Spike Protein Factory. So when these Spike Proteins
    are shown to be TOXIC then the mRNA Vaccines are seen to be TOXIC and Inoculating
    ........................................................................... with them is indeed inoculating with TOXINS.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    From the Moderna Website:
    What do mRNA Vaccines Do?
    mRNA Vaccines Produce The Instructions That Make Proteins

    https://www.modernatx.com/mrna-technology/science-and-fundamentals-mrna-technology

    ...." mRNA medicines are sets of instructions. And these instructions direct cells
    in the body to make proteins"

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And THOSE are the same Spike Proteins NOW being called into question.

    2. absolutely nothing has changed with respect to our understanding of the incredible safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines

    WRONG ! - Fact is - a lot has changed, as the Spike Proteins have been found to be TOXIC
    Now unless YOU want to call the prestigious "Salk Institute" a coven of Witch Doctor QUACKs
    This statement too is here EXPOSED as Flat LIE

    The Novel Coronavirus’
    Spike Protein Plays Additional Key Role In Illness

    https://www.newswise.com/coronaviru...-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness
    Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.
    Salk Institute science paper reveals the covid spike protein is what’s causing deadly blood clots


    3. "There are no peer-reviewed publications (or data, or pre-prints) which support
    ............................................................................................................................. Bridle's claims."


    This is a Straight Up, BALD LIE - Dr Bridle uses the recently published Peer Reviewed Japanese Research, which does indeed support his claims.

    Japanese Regulatory Agency Study Shows
    VAX SPIKE PROTEIN concentrates in spleen, liver, adrenals, and
    ovaries in high concentrations –2nd Study shows breast milk
    contamination, “infants encountering bleeding disorders in the
    gastrointestinal tract”

    https://adarapress.com/2021/06/01/j...high-concentrations-breast-milk-contaminated/

    .4. There is no evidence to suggest the vaccines pose a risk to suckling or breastfeeding infants:

    First Off
    See the info above as to the Japanese Study
    infants encountering bleeding disorders in the gastrointestinal tract

    Secondly
    Pregnant and breastfeeding individuals were excluded from the clinical trials, therefore, the
    vaccines have NOT been specifically evaluated for pregnant or breastfeeding individuals.
    This FACT in and of itself assumes an disregard and utter ignorance of any risk to pregnant
    or breastfeeding individuals.

    https://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro...ccination_pregnancy_clinical_support_tool.pdf

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
     
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    PART II

    Your Article then goes deeper into the "Smoke & Mirror" Stage quoting what I suspect may
    a lot of Drug Company Propaganda

    So I will counter for YOUR Information
    That as expected if the Spike Proteins in the mRNA Vaccines are indeed TOXIC the price
    for Ignoring this will rise as the Time from inoculation advances

    America’s Frontline Doctors:
    COVID-Vaccinated Can ‘Shed’ Spike Protein, Harming Unvaccinated
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...d-can-shed-spike-protein-harming-unvaccinated

    A new study has confirmed that people who have been vaccinated against COVID produce
    excessive spike proteins that are capable of passing the Blood Brain Barrier causing
    irreparable damage to the brain — and Pfizer’s own documents warn that vaccinated people
    actually shed these excessive spike proteins putting the unvaccinated at risk for harm:


    Pfizer Confirms COVID-Vaccinated People Can ‘Shed’
    Spike Proteins And Harm The Unvaccinated
    https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.co...carriage-is-possible-via-skin-to-skin-contac/

    The COVID-19 Spike Protein
    May Be A Potentially Unsafe Toxic Endothelial Pathogen

    https://trialsitenews.com/the-covid...otentially-unsafe-toxic-endothelial-pathogen/
    Paul Elias Alexander, PhD; Parvez Dara, MD, MBA; Howard Tenenbaum, DDS, PhD

    We raise the specter of harm from the vaccines in children and adolescents. We are
    scientists and prognosticators who believe in the science of pre-existing vaccines that
    have undergone rigorous pretesting prior to human exposure. We have very serious
    concerns about these COVID-19 vaccines especially given escalating adverse effects
    being reported in the CDC’s VAERS vaccine adverse event database, the European
    vaccine adverse event reporting database, and the evidence in the general media.
    The reports of several thousand deaths post vaccine that appear temporally linked to
    the vaccines are very alarming. We are raising the alarm and call for urgent examination.


    We also raise these risk concerns for pregnant women who must only be administered safe
    drugs or vaccines. We never ever administer an untested biological substance to a pregnant
    woman. There could be no exception to this and we are very concerned by the administration
    of these vaccines to pregnant women. They are very concerning risks to these COVID-19
    vaccines and we are referring to not just immediate risks, but the long-term ones that would
    emerge in years to come e.g. autoimmune disorders etc. We just do not have the required
    long-term safety data for the vaccines and this worries us immensely. The reality is that we
    strongly support vaccines that are ‘properly’ developed, and we are not anti-vaxxers.


    More than 5,000 Covid Vaccine Deaths in America, 25,359
    “Serious Injuries” and Almost 300,000 Reported “Adverse Events”

    Latest VAERS data released showed 294,801 reports of adverse events following
    COVID vaccines, including 5,165 deaths and 25,359 serious injuries between
    Dec. 14, 2020 and May 28, 2021.

    .https://www.globalresearch.ca/more-...almost-300000-reported-adverse-events/5747015

    Unthinkable Thoughts. The Spike Protein
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/unthinkable-thoughts-the-spike-protein/5744955


    INTESTINES DESTROYED AFTER THE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON
    VACCINE - DON'T WORRY ITS STILL RARE

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/XL4OfwOPqpL6/

    Vaccine-Related Serious Events In The US Hit More Than 200,000 –
    With More Than 900 Among Teens
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-07-cdc-reports-vaccine-events-among-teens.html

    FEDS SPEND $3 BILLION MORE ON VACCINE HESITANCY
    ADS AS VAERS DEATH REPORTS SURPASS 5,000
    https://www.blacklistednews.com/art...tancy-ads-as-vaers-death-reports-surpass.html

    Vaccine Researcher Admits
    ‘Big Mistake,’ Says Spike Protein Is A Dangerous ‘Toxin’
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/v...mistake-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin
    .
     
  10. Durandal

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    I did not say or even insinuate that your doctor is a fraud. I said he is a kook.

    Now, do more research. For example:

    https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/04/spike-protein-behavior

    I’ve been getting a lot of questions in the last few days about several Spike-protein-related (and vaccine-related) topics, so I thought this would be a good time to go into them. There’s been a recent report about the vascular effects of the Spike protein alone (not coronavirus infection per se), and another presentation on similar effects in lung tissue. These are almost certainly looking at the same phenomena – the lungs are of course full of vascular tissue, and what’s being seen in both cases is very likely mediated by effects on the vascular endothelium.

    In the first study, hamsters were injected with a pseudovirus was created that expressed surface Spike protein, while in the second the researchers just injected the protein directly into mice. The pseudovirus team went on to compare endothelial cells with different mutational forms of the ACE2 surface protein (S680D, with increased stability and S680L, with decreased stability). The response to the pseudovirus was quite different in these two, suggesting that it is indeed the binding of the Spike protein to ACE2 that’s a key part of this process. That happens as the coronvirus infects vascular tissue, of course, but this work shows that it’s not the whole process of viral infection that’s responsible for all the trouble: it starts with the initial binding event.

    So I’ve been getting questions about what this means for vaccination: if we’re causing people to express Spike protein via mRNA or adenovirus vectors, are we damaging them just as if they’d been infected with coronavirus? Fortunately, the answer definitely seems to be “no” – in fact, the pseudovirus paper notes near the end that the antibody response generated by vaccination against the Spike protein will be beneficial in two ways, against infection and against the Spike-mediated endothelial damage as well. There are several reasons why the situation is different.
     
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    Covid Disinformation & Media Suppression of Experts’ Warnings
    Give Credibility to Conspiracy Theories
    https://www.unz.com/proberts/covid-...ings-give-creditility-to-conspiracy-theories/

    Thank You Vader
    Censorship - [​IMG] The Last Refuge of the Puerile Authoritarian, when his LIEs fail him.
    Puerile because in the long run it strengthens his adversaries case and weakens his own

    ................... NOW Why am I NOT surprised that YOU think this is a Good Idea
    ...................................... [​IMG]
     
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    No, it's a matter of shutting down lies that lead to serious consequences for public health of people fall for them.

    Is outlawing the crying of "Fire" in a crowded theater also "censorship"?
     
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    YES YOU MOST CERTAINLY DID
    When YOU accuse a tenured, well respected Academic of "fuffing up his own credentials"'
    YOU are in FACT accusing him of Fraud. & that is a very F[​IMG][​IMG]LISH -Ad Hominem attack

     
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    Key word: Or. In this case, you are making a big deal out of his credentials, as though his credentials make his kooky claims automatically true. They do not. Besides, more people with better credentials than his say he's wrong.

    Now stop with the confirmation bias, stop attacking a straw man, and try dealing with the facts, you [​IMG]
     
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    The vaccine IS an instruction to cells to produce an Wuhan spike protein. It is supposed to make the body react to provide antibodies to the spike. Difference from normal vaccines is that normal vaccines are inactive versions of a virus that do something similar. This type of treatment has never been allowed on humans. Animal testing take 1 to 2 years. As Fauci says in his emails that phase 1 and 2 of human trials takes 1 to 2 years. He figured the quickest one could be available was 1 1/2 years. This was done in literally 6 months. Now the public is phase 3 of 4 human trials.

    If you have had Covid there is no reason to risk taking the vaccine.

    According to Pharma pregnant women should not take it but government is telling us it is safe so pregnant women are taking it.

    It has been released on the public under Emergency Use Authorization which was designed to allow terminally ill patients to try drugs not approved by the FDA, like these vaccines.

    This is a never before done mass experiment on the public. Government does not have a great record in this regard.
     
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    Is remaining silent while being aware of a Fire that is endangering people NOT a Criminal Act ?
    Dr Bridal
    thinks that it is and so given what he knows Courageously at great expense
    to himself He speaks out - & the best YOU do sis to Cheap Shot him accusing Him
    .......................................................................................................................................... of Fraud

    Intelligent, & Intellectually
    Honest People
    rely on "Peer Review" & the TRUTH to weed out dangerous Lies
    ......... & the Science that Dr Bridal relies upon is "Peer Review"


    Stupid, Weak, Puerile,
    Lying
    Control Freaks rely on "Censorship" in their attempts to control the TRUTH

    ......... & the Science that Dr Bridal relies upon is "Peer Reviewed"

    .
     
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    ^
    Stupid, Weak, Puerile
     
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    While YOU were Immersed in cheap shot Ad Hominem attacks, that is EXACTLY
    .................................................................................................................. what I was doing


    & Watching YOU standing on YOUR head [​IMG] trying to Oar YOUR way out
    .................................. of YOUR Faux-Pas [​IMG] Is absolutely Hilarious [​IMG]
    ................................. [​IMG]
    ........................................ I couldn't Resist :)
     
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    Speaking of Ad Hominem, your latest post.

    Again, the guy's credentials do not make him automatically right. You're the one who brought them up and, yes, fluffed them up to make him sound more credible than he is. You only respect his credentials, though, because you agree with what he says and want everyone else to listen to him.

    Of course, there is nothing wrong with listening to what he has to say, but you shouldn't just stop there. When you have one guy out saying these things that are contrary to the established science and what others with equal or better credentials have to say, then you should at least do more research before deciding that he's right, the vaccines are "toxic" and it's all another vast conspiracy to, err, uh, hmm... To cause some tiny number of people health problems from the vaccine in the process of preventing a far more problematic viral infection? Hell of a conspiracy you've got there :lol:

    You should stick to 9/11 and the banana termites :laughing:
     
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    YouTube does not remove misinformation about C19. It only removes content it doesn’t like. Here are three examples of dangerous misinformation on Covid readily available on YouTube.





    These three videos demonstrate just a little of the misinformation about C19 YouTube has happily spread. Again, they do not remove misinformation because it’s incorrect or because it’s dangerous—they only remove information that doesn’t conform to their goals or worldview.

    If you use YouTube as any sort of fact check service you are opening yourself up to being misled.
     
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    I don't see any misinformation there.
     
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    I know. Because you aren’t qualified to spot misinformation on COVID and YouTube didn’t warn you or remove the content.

    If you watched the videos you would notice in the first video Dr. Fauci tells Americans they don’t need to be wearing masks because masks may only stop a droplet and that’s how COVID spreads. That interview was in early March 2020. Fauci would remain anti mask until April.

    In the last video an attorney wants to prosecute Trump for murder for not recommending masks in February 2020 based on Trump saying COVID spreads essentially through the air (aerosols) and Trump knew masks would have saved lives in February/March.

    Both things can not be true. They are mutually exclusive.

    In the second video incorrect statistics on influenza deaths are given. It’s a con the medical/scientific community has been perpetrating on you for decades without you knowing it—because you aren’t qualified to determine incorrect information on virology and epidemiology from correct information. And you trust other people as ignorant as yourself to fact check for you. I’m not trying to be mean. I’m just pointing out ways you can improve your life by not trusting the wrong people.
     
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    Nah, you're just parroting what other clueless and nefarious people told you to think about those videos.
     
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    No. Everything I post is based on empirical evidence.

    The reason I posted the two videos contradicting each other is so we don’t have to get into the details of virology to show my point is valid. If the two videos contradict each other directly and they are both on YouTube your claim is not correct that they remove incorrect information. One of those two videos (actually both contain misinformation and disinformation) has to be a falsehood. And they are both available on YouTube.

    Now, a quiz for you. True or false:

    100,000 or more people die from the flu annually in the US.

    True or false?
     
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    Re My abject Hypocrisy :(
    "Speaking of Ad Hominem, your latest post."
    Okay -OK !
    I admit it.. I CL[​IMG]WNED Yah :) - But after suffering multiple "Personal Attacks" from
    YOU, multiple times, on multiple threads, I simply could not Resist.- Seeing YOUR EXPOSED
    TUCHUS shining on the page. It was an uncontrollable knee jerk, Kick Ass reaction on my part.

    - I'm sorry - I Apologize - but have to admit it was FUN :) & I just couldn't Resist [​IMG]

    Re Bridels's Credentials
    "You're the one who brought them up and, yes, fluffed them up"

    Yet another disappointing Lie - How did I "fluff them up" ? - I simply introduced him as:
    Dr. Byram Bridle PHD Professor of Viral Immunology at University of Guelph
    No fluff up - Not any MORE, nor any LESS than what his actual Credentials are

    Re Bridels's Conclusions being
    "contrary to the established science"
    Dr. Bridel
    used "Peer Reviewed Science" and his Scientific expertise in the field
    of Viral Immunology to reach his conclusions regarding the mRNA Spike Proteins
    ........................................................................................................................... here in question.

    B
    e pleased to tell us, good Durandal, exactly how is "Peer Reviewed Science"
    ............................................................. 'contrary' to Established Science ?
     
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